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[calvin the wraithlord]

Nothing like taking afew days away from the Forum to come back to see Raverrn being Raverrn, gives me something to laugh at on my lunch break, good show man, good show. But yeah, pointless, dont see what this has to do with GKs and i don't see why you'd ally scouts, i personally wouldn't take either but as you may already have an aegis ( for comms ) i suppose if you really HAD to take one or the other id take the assassin for "lols"

[Reclusiarch Darius]

Im asking snipers or vindicare for killing HQs, for example, I want to kill a tervigon. would 10 precise shots do, or a vindicare shot do?

 

 

Snipers do nothing to MC's or characters. 

[Grand Master Caloth]

They do still wound MCs on a 4+

[Reclusiarch Darius]

 

They do still wound MCs on a 4+ 

 

 

Most MC's have a 3+ save. They literally don't care. 

[Grand Master Caloth]

Any saves forced are better than none, not to mention on 6s it's ap2. Precision shot doesn't come into effect, but never scoff at forcing saves, esp with the chance of negating those saves

[Reclusiarch Darius]

 

Any saves forced are better than none, not to mention on 6s it's ap2. Precision shot doesn't come into effect, but never scoff at forcing saves, esp with the chance of negating those saves 

 

 

At BS3, and Heavy 1, Scout with sniper rifles are close to useless. The only reason I would take them (as min Allies) over bolters is because 36" lets you keep your distance (Marine Scouts are not frontline in any way). 

 

You'll cause maybe 1-2 wounds with a combat squad, at best. Which they usually just shrug off, and they literally don't care about Precision Shot or Pinning (MC's are usually solo models and they're Fearless). 

[Wrath of Humanity]

so what would you use that can take out HQs from a good distance and also take up the same amount of points?

[raverrn]

Regular HQs? Anything that's S8+ AP2. Stormraven is the winner in the GK list because is can get around behind enemy units, forcing saves onto a character hiding in the back of a unit.

 

Monstrous HQs? Either a Heavy Psilencer DK or a Librarian with the DLD praying for Vortex.

[Reclusiarch Darius]

so what would you use that can take out HQs from a good distance and also take up the same amount of points?

 

 

It's very difficult to do with say single shots from like a Vindicare or something. You're better off nuking the whole unit, and as a consequence the IC dying too. Sniping in 40k is hard unless you have better mobility or some way of always hitting your target (due to even GW not understanding how Precision Shot is worded, not even the Vindicare can do it automatically). Kill off the unit first, then focus down the IC.