hummus Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 To use as counts as world eaters? Furious charge for all. Death company as really angry marines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I don't like giving Games Workshop further excuses to pump out more "It's Space Marines, but-!" loyalist 'dexes and I'm sure not going to start giving them one now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amornar Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I am toying with ideas of drop pod BA army rules to represent my Night Lords I'd like to start after the new year. I've seen many less chaos-y legions played using loyalist rule sets over the years. Got to work with what you got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspiringchaoschampion Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Nope my nurgle army will stay csm using the crimson slaughter book its pretty fun and can actually do ok in competitive games even with my relatively fluffy list. Also the crimson slaughter artefacts all have a use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'm Heckus Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 They might be fun for making a slaanesh army with all the extra wings on the shoulder pads. Maybe do them as "Emperor's Tears" and paint the blood drops silver of light blue. Sanguinary guard for elites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucio Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I'd have thought that Blood Angels would have been a perfect Khornate army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Fluff wise there are too many libbies used in BAs, gamewise they may be interesting, but buying 30+ jump pack models may not be the thing chaos players want to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspiringchaoschampion Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I faced the new ba codex yesterday at 500 points. All i can say is its got better but its around the same level as chaos so it actually was a close game. Dante is a beast however Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Dante at 500 pts is half an army, bit OP. My CSM will always be CSM, my BA forever BA. This codex looks less powerful then last one, but much more balanced. Me likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Fluff wise there are too many libbies used in BAs, gamewise they may be interesting, but buying 30+ jump pack models may not be the thing chaos players want to do.Why would they be buying 30+ jump packs again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspiringchaoschampion Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Dante at 500 pts is half an army, bit OP. My CSM will always be CSM, my BA forever BA. This codex looks less powerful then last one, but much more balanced. Me likely. I agree my sorceror turned into great unclean one managed to grind down a unit of death company and get dante down to 1 wound my poor daemon only nanaged to pass 1 invun all game :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebris Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Well those who know me and read my posts know full well how I dislike "count as" armies. I am a CSM player first, a Chaos Daemons player second so bar looting the new BA sprues for some nice trinkets I am not interested in them. I am of the idea though to buy the new Sanguinary Priest and convert him into a CSM model. I see him quite striking in the Black Legion scheme and all I would need is perhaps a change of the helmet and little else. In terms of gameplay sooner or later my gameclub will be flooded with Blood Angels... Here in Italy they are considered a sort of "national" chapter so almost every marine player has some BA in his basement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Fluff wise there are too many libbies used in BAs, gamewise they may be interesting, but buying 30+ jump pack models may not be the thing chaos players want to do.Why would they be buying 30+ jump packs again? chaos player. 0 jump pack units since 4th ed gav dex. used. new BA codex obligatory 8-10 DC, obligatory 8-10 sang guard[have to buy 10 anyway]. 10-15 RAS. assuming one has enough weapons to to the sanguard, that is 5-6 boxs of raptors/talons. Not everyone likes that. Ah forgot the 2 Libby most armies will be using. Thankfuly we do use bikers, so if someone decides to run 8/8/2x5+sm ally we have the models. But still 5-6 box to play 1 build is a lot of cash. In terms of gameplay sooner or later my gameclub will be flooded with Blood Angels... Here in Italy they are considered a sort of "national" chapter so almost every marine player has some BA in his basement. Because of all those puttos right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucio Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Liking the Sanguinary Priest idea to use as a Dark Apostle, maybe with Fabius Bile's backpack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebris Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 In terms of gameplay sooner or later my gameclub will be flooded with Blood Angels... Here in Italy they are considered a sort of "national" chapter so almost every marine player has some BA in his basement. Because of all those puttos right? Actually is a bit more than that. The first thing is that the Blood Angels are based upon the Divina Commedia by Dante Alighieri, second thing is that their "artistic and learned" flair is a tribute to the Renaissance era and third, the Blood Angels until recently used mostly italian names like Lorenzo and so on. If one would read more in detail their fluff many more details could be glimpsed and it is no secret that here in Italy they are the most played SM army. Also there is the concept of "guiding the dead to their doom", the "tears of an angel" and so on which are countless little citations from the Divina Commedia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Fluff wise there are too many libbies used in BAs, gamewise they may be interesting, but buying 30+ jump pack models may not be the thing chaos players want to do.Why would they be buying 30+ jump packs again? chaos player. 0 jump pack units since 4th ed gav dex. used. new BA codex obligatory 8-10 DC, obligatory 8-10 sang guard[have to buy 10 anyway]. 10-15 RAS. assuming one has enough weapons to to the sanguard, that is 5-6 boxs of raptors/talons. Not everyone likes that. Ah forgot the 2 Libby most armies will be using. Thankfuly we do use bikers, so if someone decides to run 8/8/2x5+sm ally we have the models. But still 5-6 box to play 1 build is a lot of cash. Looks at Jeske's post. Looks at the majority of BA posts planning to use Sanguine Wing to either Deepstrike Assault Terminators or the two VV squads from another Formation, which means only two squads with JPs at most as other formation demands the last Elite slot be filled with a Sternguard. Yep, still don't see it. I guess I need those "One army rules the Codex" blinders. Carry on then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 You really dont get it? Because if not, I can explain... EDIT: And no, I'm not tempted, certainly not as a count as option. I have Lemartes and a box of DC just because I like the models and use them as a Kill Team... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspiringchaoschampion Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 The only thing that really annoys me with ba is their +1 I on the charge and the fact death company are still better than bezerkers. I mean are you really telling me a marine in the grip if the butchers nails and khorne wont ignore the pain but some guy reliving sanguiniuses last few moments will.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 You really dont get it? Because if not, I can explain... Somehow I doubt tht you can explain the mind of jeske. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
girot Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Space Vampires. Your arguments are invalid. Now that I said that out loud... I think I should add glitter to my bareheaded marines now so they can sparkle in the sunlight. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urauloth Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Tempted, sure. The problem is I'm also tempted to actually pick up the new BAs and start running them legit, which is awful, them being filthy loyalists and all, but I've always liked aspects of their fluff and the new minis own bones, so. I'd have an excuse to finally buy a death company kit. Anyway, the point is if I wound up doing that, I wouldn't want to double up on the same army rules-wise, so running my CSM as counts-as BA while also running actual BA would... not be very much fun, especially since I plan to do that exact thing with my Wolves and counts-as SW sometime this year so I can get skullcrushers as counts-as thunderwolves. I like counts-as when it's done well, but I don't think I can commit to it, so I'm going to have to pass. I'd encourage other people to do it, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopkins Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 love jump packs raptors with the mark of khorne are pretty brutal on the charge champ with a lightning claw and vets against astartes is my MVP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheesh Mode Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 No. I will stick my veterans. We do not call it the Long War for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 No. I will stick my veterans. We do not call it the Long War for nothing. My Blood Angels look forward to continuing the Long War soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 I hear the latest formation, one of them is allowing assault out of Deep Strike? Is....is GW finally coming around to assault? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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