Zedrenael Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 So with all the new formations coming out I got to say that I am getting really giddy about it all. In just 880 points you can take the Archangels Sanguine Wing with 400 points of free upgrades. And then another 1050 you can take the Angel's Fury Spearhead formation. That would come out to 1930 without upgrades on four Stormravens, 3 Obj Secured Tactical Squads, 2 VV with all power weapons, and a Sternguard squad with 10 combi weapons. You would just need to take someone that will get you a reroll on the reserve roll to make sure that you get the Spearhead turn 1 so you don't auto lose. This then gives you opportunity to assault out of deep strike with the VV and maybe take some other things to help soften up the opponent. I don't know..... The Blood Angels may have not gotten as much love as people would have liked in the codex but the formations are where it is at now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300755-spearhead-archangels/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
girot Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Indeed! These formations really make up for the flavor and utility that was seemingly lost in the codex update. It would seem to me that because of the detachment/formation mechanic GW can bring the Blood Angels more in line with the fluff AND allow us to add in that BA flare we've grown to love on an "as needed" basis. This actually makes a heck of a lot of sense. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300755-spearhead-archangels/#findComment-3896153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonOfThunder Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Spearhead already gets a reroll as part of its rules ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300755-spearhead-archangels/#findComment-3896217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zedrenael Posted December 20, 2014 Author Share Posted December 20, 2014 Well then I need to figure out the best army list for these two formations. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300755-spearhead-archangels/#findComment-3896309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Which one is the vanguard one again? I may use it for a count as RG force sometime Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300755-spearhead-archangels/#findComment-3896323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zedrenael Posted December 21, 2014 Author Share Posted December 21, 2014 It would be the archangels sanguine wing Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300755-spearhead-archangels/#findComment-3896441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronhour Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 How much is the So with all the new formations coming out I got to say that I am getting really giddy about it all. In just 880 points you can take the Archangels Sanguine Wing with 400 points of free upgrades. And then another 1050 you can take the Angel's Fury Spearhead formation. That would come out to 1930 without upgrades on four Stormravens, 3 Obj Secured Tactical Squads, 2 VV with all power weapons, and a Sternguard squad with 10 combi weapons. You would just need to take someone that will get you a reroll on the reserve roll to make sure that you get the Spearhead turn 1 so you don't auto lose. This then gives you opportunity to assault out of deep strike with the VV and maybe take some other things to help soften up the opponent. I don't know..... The Blood Angels may have not gotten as much love as people would have liked in the codex but the formations are where it is at now. Is 1930 the cheapest you can get it all in? If so that's a shame as a Damocles command rhino is 75 making it 5 points short of fitting it in a 2k list 2+ with a reroll turn one would have been worth it I think. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300755-spearhead-archangels/#findComment-3896572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Communications array with a aegis line? Thats outside force org and probably about 60pts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300755-spearhead-archangels/#findComment-3896611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pascalnz Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 fortifications are still part of force orgs...make sure the detachment you use has a slot available for them Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300755-spearhead-archangels/#findComment-3896613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Well, yea, but they dont take up a slot that units from the BA codex would be taking like the damocles would. Karlaen gets you a reroll. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300755-spearhead-archangels/#findComment-3896742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
InquisitorBlack Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 The formation already gets a re-roll, guys. Cronhour mentioned the Damocles because its +1 to reserve rolls stacks and changes the failure rate from 11% to under 3%. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300755-spearhead-archangels/#findComment-3896759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaezus Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 The Damocles doesn't take up an FOC slot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300755-spearhead-archangels/#findComment-3896887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaezus Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Also units DSing close to it (12" I think) do not scatter, which makes it useful for emergency defensive drops. Don't forget that S10 AP1 large blast barrage either, which uses reduced scatter if the Damocles has LOS. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300755-spearhead-archangels/#findComment-3896894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronhour Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 What they said, you already get a reroll but i've failed 3+ rerolls often enough before, 2+ makes it quite rare. I can see me using this formation for fun games but its too reliant on the ravens coming turn 1 to be competative. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300755-spearhead-archangels/#findComment-3896932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Mapple Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 I don't know. Most tournaments are 5 or 6 games. Then you have almost and exactly 50 percent chance of auto losing at least 1 game. In a rogue trader type, you only have a 1 in 3 chance. If the auto lose comes on the finals, that's a good way to get 3rd place or so. Lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300755-spearhead-archangels/#findComment-3896940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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