Rafen IX Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Greetings brothers, as a new owner of the shield of Baal: exterminatus books I have to say I'm underwhelmed by one thing. The artwork is sublime, the story fantastic the characters great. The formations however...disappointing, the space wolves supplement saw some great formations which give unique edges. Ours are either hugely expensive, requiring almost apocolypse level games to use, or seem slightly sub par. This could be because they were designed for campaign specific use or not. Not to say I won't be play testing them though against my main opponant who is a 'nid player and great rejoicing over this campaign has been had lol. I'd like to stress again how much I've enjoyed this awesome campaign gw have released. Back to the meat of the question, do you think we will get a supplement? R Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300813-do-you-think-we-will-get-a-supplement/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ContemptuousAngel Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Not really. I think our formations and detachments in Exterminatus were the answers to a lot of blood Angels players wishes for the codex. But that's me. For example if you run the formation that requires 3 Stormravens and 3 full tac squads, put a flamer and heavy flamer in them at most. Yes that is close to 1000 points. In an 1850-2000 point game you still have enough points to throw lots of jump packing DC or even more assault marines and HQ at your opponent. That's a lot of PA to have in your opponent's teeth in one turn. This would negate the horrible range advantage of the average Eldar, Tau, or Imperial Guatd armies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300813-do-you-think-we-will-get-a-supplement/#findComment-3897098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUZIONZ96 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 An image from some sort of supplement. https://m.facebook.com/332827150184175/photos/a.333391410127749.1073741829.332827150184175/584655651667989/?type=1&theater I take no credit for this, i just stumbled upon it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300813-do-you-think-we-will-get-a-supplement/#findComment-3897099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deschenus Maximus Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Doubt it. Exterminatus covers Flesh Tearers and better-Deathwing (Archangels). What would another supplement cover? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300813-do-you-think-we-will-get-a-supplement/#findComment-3897100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafen IX Posted December 22, 2014 Author Share Posted December 22, 2014 Sanguinary guard or assault squads, more priest slots? Lol I'm not asking for a return to the old, there just seems a lot of (a) termie (b) tactical © almost apocalypse level games. Obviously I know that's gw's push. Looking at them again I do like what's there, I just wanted abit less Footslogging termies :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300813-do-you-think-we-will-get-a-supplement/#findComment-3897102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deschenus Maximus Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Sanguinary guard or assault squads, more priest slots? Lol I'm not asking for a return to the old, there just seems a lot of (a) termie ( tactical © almost apocalypse level games. Obviously I know that's gw's push. Looking at them again I do like what's there, I just wanted abit less Footslogging termies You can already do a Sang Guard-heavy list with the Baal Strike Force det, and Assault Squads is covered by the Flesh Tearers Strike Force. More priests? Is that really worth a supplement? Is there a reason why the Archangels termies can't take a Land Raider? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300813-do-you-think-we-will-get-a-supplement/#findComment-3897105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafen IX Posted December 22, 2014 Author Share Posted December 22, 2014 Well now I feel slightly embarrassed ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300813-do-you-think-we-will-get-a-supplement/#findComment-3897109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ContemptuousAngel Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 ^^ That. An image from some sort of supplement. https://m.facebook.com/332827150184175/photos/a.333391410127749.1073741829.332827150184175/584655651667989/?type=1&theater I take no credit for this, i just stumbled upon it. Fusion that is from Exterminatus. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300813-do-you-think-we-will-get-a-supplement/#findComment-3897110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowerKlaw Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 I've not been following the campaign but have been thinking of getting this book for the formations (as I also play necrons) do you thnk it is worth it just for them? Any chance of a rundown of what formations etc are in the book? Cheers :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300813-do-you-think-we-will-get-a-supplement/#findComment-3897111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 I've not been following the campaign but have been thinking of getting this book for the formations (as I also play necrons) do you thnk it is worth it just for them? Any chance of a rundown of what formations etc are in the book? Cheers :) Check out the "got exterminatus and white dwarf" thread. It's on the first page. Has all the things you need. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300813-do-you-think-we-will-get-a-supplement/#findComment-3897117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Greetings brothers, as a new owner of the shield of Baal: exterminatus books I have to say I'm underwhelmed by one thing. The artwork is sublime, the story fantastic the characters great. The formations however...disappointing, the space wolves supplement saw some great formations which give unique edges. Ours are either hugely expensive, requiring almost apocolypse level games to use, or seem slightly sub par. This could be because they were designed for campaign specific use or not. Not to say I won't be play testing them though against my main opponant who is a 'nid player and great rejoicing over this campaign has been had lol. I'd like to stress again how much I've enjoyed this awesome campaign gw have released. Back to the meat of the question, do you think we will get a supplement? R I feel exactly the same. Other than 1 formation, I can't see using them outside of huge games. Loved the story, loved the images in Exterminatus, but as a rule book not so much. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300813-do-you-think-we-will-get-a-supplement/#findComment-3897142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Not really. I think our formations and detachments in Exterminatus were the answers to a lot of blood Angels players wishes for the codex. But that's me. For example if you run the formation that requires 3 Stormravens and 3 full tac squads, put a flamer and heavy flamer in them at most. Yes that is close to 1000 points. In an 1850-2000 point game you still have enough points to throw lots of jump packing DC or even more assault marines and HQ at your opponent. That's a lot of PA to have in your opponent's teeth in one turn. This would negate the horrible range advantage of the average Eldar, Tau, or Imperial Guatd armies. That is a good formation, but how many of us own 3 storm ravens? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300813-do-you-think-we-will-get-a-supplement/#findComment-3897144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Fear the power of the Supplement. One alone can destroy entire Chapters Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300813-do-you-think-we-will-get-a-supplement/#findComment-3897146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
veneratedaniel Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Not really. I think our formations and detachments in Exterminatus were the answers to a lot of blood Angels players wishes for the codex. But that's me. For example if you run the formation that requires 3 Stormravens and 3 full tac squads, put a flamer and heavy flamer in them at most. Yes that is close to 1000 points. In an 1850-2000 point game you still have enough points to throw lots of jump packing DC or even more assault marines and HQ at your opponent. That's a lot of PA to have in your opponent's teeth in one turn. This would negate the horrible range advantage of the average Eldar, Tau, or Imperial Guatd armies. How? That is a formation so does not go towards a normal force org, that would be considered a separated detachment and you would still need to pay for a hq and 2 troops with still only having 3 fast slots. You would be taking either the formation as primary or secondary and be ba allied with ba Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300813-do-you-think-we-will-get-a-supplement/#findComment-3897167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pascalnz Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 it's not "lots" of guys using the special ability, it's goin got be 2 ..maaaybe three units that get to make good use out of it. it's base cast 1020 for the formation. then throw in a another formation or detachment to fill in the rest. the main problem is that you can easily make a list that auto loses first turn if you can't roll a 3+ on 2 dice. the best leveraging of the special rule is 3 dreadnoughts arriving turn one with cassor the dammed a libby dread and a fragioso. having corbulo in on of the ravens granting your dreads +1 ini and WS and unit of scouts . with a few melta's on the tac squads and two FA drop pods to make sure you get the three podded dreads first turn. just make sure you roll a 3+ :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300813-do-you-think-we-will-get-a-supplement/#findComment-3897176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhx711 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 From an economical standpoint, of course we probably will, so games workshop can squeeze more money out of us Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300813-do-you-think-we-will-get-a-supplement/#findComment-3897228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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