Donkalleone Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 I had a similar Question a while ago but i dont want to necro up an old Thread and this is a more Specific Question. Since i had some time so i thought about 500Point games and came up with the following idea. CoF Detachment HQ 185/190pts ??? Elite 20pts Servitor Servitor Fast Attack 290/295pts 5 Fenrisanwolfs 5 TWC with 2 SS and a AP2 Weapon First: What do you think about it? I get a possible KBS and the WS+1 Bonus for a minimum Tax and can max out on Beast/TWC. Second question is now what HQ to Spend Points on and this bringing back to an old Threat. I will add the HQ either to the Fenrisans or let him run in the TWC unit and Screen with Fenrisanwolves. HQ for 190pts: the TWC get a Frostaxe as an AP2 Weapon Harald getting the automatic TWC WLT and Tanking Flammerhits on Charge and a I1 AP2 weapon. WGBL with KBS/Runic/SS/FCT but no sure TWC WLT and a i5 AP2 weapon, Rerolls to hit For 185points (and below): the TWC get a Powerfist as an AP2 Weapon Canis Buffs the Fenrisanwolfs , has TWC WLT and his Shred/+1 Attack have higher chance of Rending(AP2 and ArmorPen) WGBL with KBS/Runic/SS but no sure TWC WLT and a i5 AP2 weapon and 1 Fenrisan more. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300989-twc-lord-in-500points/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Interesting idea, I'd personally go with Harald, the surefire acquisition of the Thunderwolf Warlord Trait and I think the Storm Shield and axe combo is more survivable and reliable than Canis and his claws. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300989-twc-lord-in-500points/#findComment-3900349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkalleone Posted December 25, 2014 Author Share Posted December 25, 2014 I want to clear something up before more people post. Its also a question about either Frostaxe or PF in the TWC Unit which highly depends on the HQPoints. I wanted the TWC Unit and HQ/Fenrisan unit to be Seperate so i can Charge 2 Targets/Tanks while having a "high" Strengh AP2 Weapon for sure. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300989-twc-lord-in-500points/#findComment-3900353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 At 190 you want Harald. Otherwise you will be stuck with a WGBL. I would run it like this: Lord, RA, SS, KBS, FCT, TWM 5 TWC, 1 SS, 1 PF 2 Servitors This is pretty much by one TWC blob that is present throughout my lists (with slight gear alterations). With that setups I can charge 3 units. Lord goes into one and TWC does a disordered charge. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300989-twc-lord-in-500points/#findComment-3900359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarog Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 lets not forget though, that the sevitors can be rendered a complete and utter waste without an iron priest if you roll badly (mindlock on a 1/3 chance). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300989-twc-lord-in-500points/#findComment-3900643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Those are naked 10 points guys. Their sole purpose is to satisfy the Elite tax of COF. Just deploy them on an objective and forget about them :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300989-twc-lord-in-500points/#findComment-3900734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangbanger Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 I like it. I am currently putting together an escalation list and want harald at later levels...this however gets him in early and at only a 20pt tax (currently have a rune priest/bl but don't want them later on) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300989-twc-lord-in-500points/#findComment-3901063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORKILL Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 I think, no friends will be made while playing this list at 500 pts. Is the purpose to bring the hardest list possible? Or is this an escalation league/campaign? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300989-twc-lord-in-500points/#findComment-3901308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 I think, no friends will be made while playing this list at 500 pts. Is the purpose to bring the hardest list possible? Or is this an escalation league/campaign? Isn't that the beauty of it? We once had a 750 points mini tournament at our store. I could not resist. I brought the above list (with 2 SS) and added Sevrin Loth + Sniper Scouts. Loth chose Invisibility as one of his powers. It was fun... for me Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300989-twc-lord-in-500points/#findComment-3901344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORKILL Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 I think, no friends will be made while playing this list at 500 pts. Is the purpose to bring the hardest list possible? Or is this an escalation league/campaign? Isn't that the beauty of it? We once had a 750 points mini tournament at our store. I could not resist. I brought the above list (with 2 SS) and added Sevrin Loth + Sniper Scouts. Loth chose Invisibility as one of his powers. It was fun... for me I think that only one player in the game having fun is a big problem with 40K, right now. Don't get me wrong in a hardcore competitive environment all is fair and players should expect to see the worst cheese builds available. However, most of these small point tourneys are intended as a more casual event. This allows new players to get in and play with their new toys. As a veteran player, I tend to de-tune for these events because I think it is our duty to encourage new players not steam roll them. Last year, we had a 500pt tournament and one of the locals brought a Chapter Master on a bike with all of the goodies. I didn't play to win against him, I played a points denial game to keep him from winning. He had brutalized some rookie players on his way to the upper tables. He actually, complained that I was knocking us both out of contention for top 3. He then tried to slow play me, and finally tried to start a new turn(denying me my turn) after the TO called dice down, just so that he could gain 2 points. Let's just say he won't be doing that again. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300989-twc-lord-in-500points/#findComment-3901367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkalleone Posted December 27, 2014 Author Share Posted December 27, 2014 The Purpose of this was to get a potent setup and in all honesty didnt realized it was that "broken". To that i just realized that the TWC WLT gives Furious Charge (thought it was Rage with +1A) which gives +1S in Charge making the Frost Axe S8 and the PF somewhat redundant. So the Harald and FAxe TWC Combo even better and has a Chance with AV14 cause of the amount of attacks and Rending. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300989-twc-lord-in-500points/#findComment-3901678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Well, that is the reason why COF is a damn potent supplement. Paying 20 points for your mandatory elite slots is amazing, considering pretty much every other faction needs its troops tax paid. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300989-twc-lord-in-500points/#findComment-3901690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangbanger Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 I'm kinda new to all this... The legue I'm going to be in is a casual thing. Is the above list a big no no then!? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300989-twc-lord-in-500points/#findComment-3901699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkalleone Posted December 27, 2014 Author Share Posted December 27, 2014 Nah, Take that list. You just bring them and when they swipe them be happy. Just make sure next time to bring another list ;). Like you said you are new and without experience so taking a potent list doesnt make u omnipotent. The game is still about position , tactics and dice rolls. Orkill talks about veterans bringing the cheesiest list to stomp newbies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300989-twc-lord-in-500points/#findComment-3901746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangbanger Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Ah ok. I sent it off to the league organiser anyway to see what he thought Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300989-twc-lord-in-500points/#findComment-3901783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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