Joasht Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Greetings all, I'm curious; what squad sizes and loadouts do you guys like for your Thunderwolf Cav, including things like ICs that you may attach to them? For myself, I'm currently contemplating a Wolf Lord (TWC, Wolf Claws, P.Fist, Runic Armor and the necklace from the CoF book) attached to a unit of four TWC (2 naked, 2 PF + SS), and 2-3 Iron Priests on TWC with Cyberwolves (not exceeding the number of TWs, for majority toughness rules). Part of me is contemplating just covering the table with cheap naked Thunderwolves, but I do reckon something like the Adamantium Lance would give me massive troubles if I did that. Anyway, what do you guys take, and why? Thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301056-thunderwolf-loadouts-and-squad-sizes/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 TWC aren't you Knight killers. Do not attempt to use them against anything like Knights unless you have plenty of ablative wounds. Your Lord is fine. IP are too expensive in my eyes. I used to run them but now I am content without. My setup is Lord on TWM with RA, SS, Krakenbone Sword, Fellclaw's Teeth, riding with 5-6 TWC with 2-3 SS, 1 PF, depending on points. I do not want or need more. One unit as hammer has served me well, especially when you use psychic support on them. Basically, it depends on the rest of your list and what their purpose is supposed to be. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301056-thunderwolf-loadouts-and-squad-sizes/#findComment-3901766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkalleone Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 We have several Threats conserning that question: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296301-twc-loadout-question/page-3?hl=%2Bloadout&do=findComment&comment=3879420 http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299351-thunderwolf-lord/?hl=%2Bloadout&do=findComment&comment=3864305 http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296901-brainstorming-assault-based-sw-or-the-meta-killer/page-13?hl=%2Bloadout&do=findComment&comment=3841894 http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298389-herald-vs-krakenbone-lord/ http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298677-another-twc-thread/?hl=%2Bharald&do=findComment&comment=3852228 TLDR Most people think a 5-6 Man Group with 2 SS (and a PF/PW) is the best loadout. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301056-thunderwolf-loadouts-and-squad-sizes/#findComment-3901767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilmerlin Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 TWC aren't you Knight killers. Do not attempt to use them against anything like Knights unless you have plenty of ablative wounds. Your Lord is fine. IP are too expensive in my eyes. I used to run them but now I am content without. My setup is Lord on TWM with RA, SS, Krakenbone Sword, Fellclaw's Teeth, riding with 5-6 TWC with 2-3 SS, 1 PF, depending on points. I do not want or need more. One unit as hammer has served me well, especially when you use psychic support on them. Basically, it depends on the rest of your list and what their purpose is supposed to be. What kind of psychic support do they need? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301056-thunderwolf-loadouts-and-squad-sizes/#findComment-3902247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cain21 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 I personally like my 3 all with ss and meltabombs, one with an frost axe. Comes In at 200 but it's fun and tough, of course I don't have more or I would probably make it bigger and have a couple w/of shields. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301056-thunderwolf-loadouts-and-squad-sizes/#findComment-3902264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune_Priest_Rhapsody Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 I think this is a topic that has a lot of folks preferring different load outs. It depends on your style, your game, your models. It's really your choice. I will say that I like your load out, Joasht. I am not sure you need all that IP/CW however. The 'Bestest' lord kt is TWC/RA/SS/KBS/FC but I still play the PF/WC Lord all the time. He's damn good. It's not all about minmaxing, uless it's all about minmaxing. And in that case I am the wrong person to take advice from... End of Line Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301056-thunderwolf-loadouts-and-squad-sizes/#findComment-3902268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Krakenboner is not the best. He has the best defense along with decent offense, along with the Black Death version from the codex. He is your Warlord and point man. The PF/WC dude has more potent offense, you not the best defense. He is usally my second Lord, if I take a second. Choose accordingly. As for psychic support, I am mainly looking at Invisibility or Endurance. But anything that makes them tougher or gives them a safe is good enough. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301056-thunderwolf-loadouts-and-squad-sizes/#findComment-3902343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilmerlin Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Hmmm..Kinda hard to get those specific powers. Is it worth it to invest in a Rune Priest on bike for them? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301056-thunderwolf-loadouts-and-squad-sizes/#findComment-3904091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Like many expensive units it is important to keep Thunderwolves as cheap as you realistically can, going overboard on special weapons for every model is not the best idea. In general squads of between 3-5 seem to work well with 2-3 Storm Shields put at the front of the squad for survivability and 1-2 special cc weapons of one kind or another, power axes or power fists seem fairly popular. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301056-thunderwolf-loadouts-and-squad-sizes/#findComment-3904096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik_Ironfist Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I run my thunderwolves one of two ways, If I need them cheap, I go SS/PM on all of them, If I can afford the extra 15ppm, I go SS/TH. I use TWC for vehicle hunting, when I use them. Since I don't use them much, I only have a squad of 3. I do want to get some bikes and more TWC, so I can do a full CoF mounted list. I'm learning to like them, but I'm not a really close combat oriented player. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301056-thunderwolf-loadouts-and-squad-sizes/#findComment-3904445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxoblivionxx33 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Hey , threw up a little post showing off my cav and my plans for them, Please go check it out, and as always, don't hesitate to click that follow button on the side and join up! http://averagehobbyist.blogspot.ca/2014/12/stop-hobby-time-space-wolves-in.html Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301056-thunderwolf-loadouts-and-squad-sizes/#findComment-3904844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxoblivionxx33 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 I have ran my thunder wolves into knights twice. and twice destroyed the knight while only losing 1-2 cav members. Well worth it. as much as people don't think that they can kill knights, when we have that many attacks with rending, you can reliably count on rending. I max squads out with 6 bros, 6 shields, 2 fists, , i like to run a krakenbone lord with them also , or if its the 2 other mirror image squads i run, i have iron priests w 4 cyber wolves with them. 20 attacks per squad at initiative 4 with rending, hitting on 3's most of the time(i run supplement) . then a lord with 6 attacks at initiative 5, then 10 attacks that are str 10 at initiative 1, and if your running an iron priest in the squad theres 16 additional initiative 4 attacks and 4 str 10 , apt 1 initiative 1 attacks (sorry if this seems all over the place) squad with lord : 36 rending attacks squad with priest:34 rending attakcssqud with priest: 34 rending attacksas you can see, rending is reliable when you spam awesomewolf cavalry. to great success i've used my cavalry in any role i needed at that moment, i quite literally charge them at what i want tar pitted/dead and i'm laugin. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301056-thunderwolf-loadouts-and-squad-sizes/#findComment-3905103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxoblivionxx33 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Keep in mind tho, everyone has different thoughts because everyone plays differently . your best bet is to play around and see what you like more. i played around with armless cavalry for a long while until i decided what to glue on Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301056-thunderwolf-loadouts-and-squad-sizes/#findComment-3905107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxoblivionxx33 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 I did the first part of my tutorial on how to quick and easily get a nice looking thunderwolf that is definitely a table top standard. Please head on over to my blog to check it out. Also don't be shy to hit the subsribe/follow button under followers on the right hand side. Thanks in advance, and as always. Happy Painting http://averagehobbyist.blogspot.ca/2014/12/stop-hobby-time-how-i-paint-thunder.html Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301056-thunderwolf-loadouts-and-squad-sizes/#findComment-3905679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune_Priest_Rhapsody Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Nice tutorial!! Thank you for posting it!! End of Line Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301056-thunderwolf-loadouts-and-squad-sizes/#findComment-3905746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxoblivionxx33 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 No problem , Part 2 is up ! http://averagehobbyist.blogspot.ca/2014/12/stop-hobby-time-how-i-paint-thunder_75.html Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301056-thunderwolf-loadouts-and-squad-sizes/#findComment-3905909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxoblivionxx33 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 AS promised, here is part 2 , hope you enjoy http://averagehobbyist.blogspot.ca/2014/12/stop-hobby-time-how-i-paint-thunder_75.html Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301056-thunderwolf-loadouts-and-squad-sizes/#findComment-3905910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkalleone Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Its nice that u are so into the hobby. Still not evry single thing , exspecially part 2 of a post you yesterday made, needs a new threat. Learn selfrestrain but keep up the work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301056-thunderwolf-loadouts-and-squad-sizes/#findComment-3905958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxoblivionxx33 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I have no idea how this thread became flooded with my posts, but i appologize Storm shields on every wolf though is a must if your meta is flooded with ap2, its an investment, but it's an investment that helps get what you want to point b. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301056-thunderwolf-loadouts-and-squad-sizes/#findComment-3906059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Token Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 TWC can take Power mauls, or whatever they are called, +2s ap4? But there are no frost mauls? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301056-thunderwolf-loadouts-and-squad-sizes/#findComment-3914663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vykryl Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 TWC, s5 rending, plus power maul equals s7 and occasional ap2. I'm sure they didn't want us having s8 with occasional ap2 at initiative that easily, hence no frost maul. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301056-thunderwolf-loadouts-and-squad-sizes/#findComment-3914689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune_Priest_Rhapsody Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Power Mauls are good. That is all. Well, not really... I have been running one on the pack leader of my 3 man TWC pack. Str7 possible rend and even less possible concussive. Yep. It's good. If the mauls from the DA Black Knight kit weren't so damn hard to find/expensive I'd model a pack of them for certain!! End of Line Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301056-thunderwolf-loadouts-and-squad-sizes/#findComment-3914709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Power Mauls are good. That is all. Well, not really... I have been running one on the pack leader of my 3 man TWC pack. Str7 possible rend and even less possible concussive. Yep. It's good. If the mauls from the DA Black Knight kit weren't so damn hard to find/expensive I'd model a pack of them for certain!! End of Line now i need to build 3 more thunder wolf cavalry ..... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301056-thunderwolf-loadouts-and-squad-sizes/#findComment-3914713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune_Priest_Rhapsody Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Power Mauls are good. That is all. Well, not really... I have been running one on the pack leader of my 3 man TWC pack. Str7 possible rend and even less possible concussive. Yep. It's good. If the mauls from the DA Black Knight kit weren't so damn hard to find/expensive I'd model a pack of them for certain!! End of Line now i need to build 3 more thunder wolf cavalry ..... ALL YOUR MAUL ARE BELONG TO US (me)!! End of Line Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301056-thunderwolf-loadouts-and-squad-sizes/#findComment-3914716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 the only reason i say that is because my brother plays ravenwing and likely has 3 corvus hammers i can borrow Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301056-thunderwolf-loadouts-and-squad-sizes/#findComment-3914721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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