bigted Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Hello brothers I was lucky enough to get a set of Sanguinary Guard for Christmas. My problem is I'm not sure the best way to paint the gold armour. I've spent a long time browsing the internet looking for a decent tutorial, but none of them have really helped. I tried painting gold once, and it was a disaster (the fact that I only had one gold paint at the time, shining gold, probably didn't help .) Anyway, I was hoping you guys could help me out. Thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301115-painting-sang-guard/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaweda Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 I always used to dread gold. Using the citadel paints seemed to require so much effort (and I generally enjoy citadel paint). Now I use Vallejo Liquid Gold Old Gold which is an alcohol based paint. One coat, a splash of seraphim sepia and then a highlight with it and mithril silver produces stunning results. The only caveat is you need one brush set aside for only that paint, and you need alcohol to wash that brush in, because water would totally ruin the paint. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301115-painting-sang-guard/#findComment-3902851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Instrument Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 When I did mine I used Calthan Brown as a base coat, it was from the original GW foundation paint range but I'm not sure if that still exists. I then did two coats of shining gold to get a solid colour before I coated the whole model in brown ink. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301115-painting-sang-guard/#findComment-3902855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaezus Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 I know what you mean about shining gold; on it's own, it's totally pants. I use a black basecoat, couple of coats of shining gold - not too thick on the last coat - then go over it all with a light coat of nuln oil. Finish off with a coat or two of matt varnish and the end result is a nice metallic look which shines nicely in the light. Not too fancy but it looks great. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301115-painting-sang-guard/#findComment-3902868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnorriSnorrison Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 My Sang guard were painted with a layer system: - started with a basecoat of Scorched Brown + Shining Gold 1:1 - layered about two or three coats of pure Shining Gold(add some water) - highlights with increasing amounts of mithril silver in the gold. - shadings in pure Scorched Brown(thinned heavily, and Lahmian Medium added), painted into the recesses of the armour. - Glazes of Gryphonne Sepia to achieve a different tone of gold. Post #91 shows the results. http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190550-snorris-2nd-company-we-are-bloodied-yet-unbowed/page-4 Snorri Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301115-painting-sang-guard/#findComment-3902894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jønke Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 For mine i did the following. -Black basecoat -Airbrush Tin bitz -Airbrush Shining gold (might have been burnished gold but think its shining) -Generous devlan mud -Highlight with shining gold again I'm a very lazy painter so if you paint half as good as what the marine in your avatar looks like my advise might just be for the trashbin. Following picture is crap but it was what i've had: http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/jesperplougmann/2013-11-16190600.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301115-painting-sang-guard/#findComment-3902901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 My method was: 1) Tin Bitz base coat 2) Spray Shoning Gold from above (couple of coats) 3) Sprayed highlights with Vallejo Model Air Gold 4) Wash with Daler Rowney sepia ink mixed with Johnsons Klear http://www.themightybrush.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Blood-Angels-Sanguinary-Guard-02.jpg http://www.themightybrush.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Blood-Angels-Sanguinary-Guard-03.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301115-painting-sang-guard/#findComment-3902923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsijben Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 I was really lazy and went to our home-depot for some metallic gold spray. Other layers don't work extremely well on top of it, but the gold-effect itself makes up for that in my opinion. http://imgur.com/a/dA2pK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301115-painting-sang-guard/#findComment-3902952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicodemus Doloroso Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 I just use the new Citadel paints exactly as the GW painting guide recommends and have had no problems at all, and have been happy with the results. So, What I do is: 1. Prime with black spray 2. Basecoat of Balthazar Gold 3. Wash with Agrax Earthshade 4. Layer with Gahenna's Gold 5. Highlight with Auric Armour Gold Judge the results for yourself: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-BflzTlQqfiQ/UTFly_D1hWI/AAAAAAAAA40/nEmxUSuUV2Q/s1600/Sanguinary+Guard+Finished.JPG Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301115-painting-sang-guard/#findComment-3902969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaweda Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 There is a GW painting guide? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301115-painting-sang-guard/#findComment-3902977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deschenus Maximus Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Airbrushing - makes painting gold SOOOoooo much easier! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301115-painting-sang-guard/#findComment-3902992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicodemus Doloroso Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Yes. It's pretty good in my opinion. I found it helpful in getting my painting "to the next level". Again, you can judge for yourself from the pictures above. Here's the link to the book: http://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA/How-to-Paint-Citadel-Miniatures-ENG Although this appears to be a different version than the one I own. Very similar but the miniatures on the cover of my book are different. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301115-painting-sang-guard/#findComment-3902993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaweda Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Great, appreciate it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301115-painting-sang-guard/#findComment-3902999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigted Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 Thanks for all the replies guys! Some great methods here, I'll do a few test models and see how the gold turns out. Luther, I think yours look incredible! I'm a big fan of some of your other models, especially the Mephiston you posted on the kitbash thread. How did you do the gold on Tycho? Sadly I've used up all my likes for today, but I would like a lot of these posts if I could. I want these guys to look really really good, so the more complicated the better . However I have no experience with NMM so I would prefer to do metallic metals. Thanks again everyone. I'll post my first test model when I'm done. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301115-painting-sang-guard/#findComment-3903019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Cheers bigted! For Tycho I wanted the armour to have more of an aged look, like it was a relic suit. Tin Bitz base again (I guess you would use Balthazar Gold now as Nicodemus did) and then drybrush with Rub n' Buff Gold Leaf, coat of varnish, sepia wash. I got the idea for Rub n' Buff from the most recent FW Modelling Masterclass book. It's not a paint, more like a paste, but gives a very realistic look. The gold flecks go everywhere when drybrushing so it's important to do all the gold first before any other colours. Also, like with Vallejo Liquid Gold mentioned earlier you need alcohol to wash your brush as it's not water based. If you're going to experiment with different colours / materials / techniques you might want to try it out on some spare bits before you go all guns blazing on your Sang Guard models - there are only five in the box! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301115-painting-sang-guard/#findComment-3903117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigted Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 Cheers bigted! For Tycho I wanted the armour to have more of an aged look, like it was a relic suit. Tin Bitz base again (I guess you would use Balthazar Gold now as Nicodemus did) and then drybrush with Rub n' Buff Gold Leaf, coat of varnish, sepia wash. I got the idea for Rub n' Buff from the most recent FW Modelling Masterclass book. It's not a paint, more like a paste, but gives a very realistic look. The gold flecks go everywhere when drybrushing so it's important to do all the gold first before any other colours. Also, like with Vallejo Liquid Gold mentioned earlier you need alcohol to wash your brush as it's not water based. If you're going to experiment with different colours / materials / techniques you might want to try it out on some spare bits before you go all guns blazing on your Sang Guard models - there are only five in the box! Don't worry, I'm testing on a footslogging honour guard squad that I made some time ago. Did you water down the Rub n'Buff at all? An art shop near me stocks it (according to their website) so I'll likely pick it up and give it a try. If I can get my sang guard looking half as good as your Tycho I'll be very happy . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301115-painting-sang-guard/#findComment-3903129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 No need to thin it (definitely don't use water with it!). Just squeeze a bit out onto a palette, work it into the bristles of your brush and lightly drybrush onto the model. Build it up in layers as you go. If you have a look at Asterion Moloc on my blog, I used it for him too, just used more washes to darken it to a bronze colour. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301115-painting-sang-guard/#findComment-3903138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
appiah4 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 My trick to painting gold is to start with a base of copper+brown mix on top of a black undercoat, I then go up to red gold, yellow gold or silver, depending on the age of metal I want. I suggest you try this, and you will find it works amazingly well for such a simple idea: 1. Pirme black 2. Basecoat 1:1 mix of copper and brown 3. Layer red gold 4. Shade with shade of choice (Flesh washes work great here, but Green and Purple can make interesting shades) 5. Layer red gold (again) 6. Layer yellow gold (if you want to) or highlight with yellow gold and call it done 7. If you layered yellow gold, highlight with silver and call it done Result: http://image.bolterandchainsword.com/uploads/gallery/album_8363/gallery_60983_8363_1962.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301115-painting-sang-guard/#findComment-3903147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 There is a great blog here by a guy who tried various different golds in looking for the perfect mix for his Sanguinary Guard. His final "recipe" is listed below but would probably be simplified a bit without losing the overall effect. Base coat 4:1 VMC Brass : VGC Scrofulous Brown using Airbrush Wash with thinned P3-Umbral Umber Highlight with 4:1 VMC Gold : VGC Scrofulous Brown Glaze with very thinned 1:1 P3-SanguineBase : GW-DA Green to pull highlight into the shadow Re-touch highlight color, Highlight with 3:1 VMC Gold : GW-Mithril Silver Add 4-5 reflective 'spots' with GW-Mithril silver near top/front of model. http://atticwars40k.blogspot.co.uk/2011_10_01_archive.html Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301115-painting-sang-guard/#findComment-3903204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theduke08 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 http://taleofpainters.blogspot.com/2010/07/tutorial-how-to-paint-sanguinary-guard.html This is one of my favorite Sang guard painting tutorial. Ive used this for all of my gold and get solid results. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301115-painting-sang-guard/#findComment-3903263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 My method was: 1) Tin Bitz base coat 2) Spray Shoning Gold from above (couple of coats) 3) Sprayed highlights with Vallejo Model Air Gold 4) Wash with Daler Rowney sepia ink mixed with Johnsons Klear http://www.themightybrush.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Blood-Angels-Sanguinary-Guard-02.jpg http://www.themightybrush.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Blood-Angels-Sanguinary-Guard-03.jpg I wish i could do my jump packs like that O_O Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301115-painting-sang-guard/#findComment-3903357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
appiah4 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 My method was: 1) Tin Bitz base coat 2) Spray Shoning Gold from above (couple of coats) 3) Sprayed highlights with Vallejo Model Air Gold 4) Wash with Daler Rowney sepia ink mixed with Johnsons Klear http://www.themightybrush.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Blood-Angels-Sanguinary-Guard-02.jpg http://www.themightybrush.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Blood-Angels-Sanguinary-Guard-03.jpg I wish i could do my jump packs like that O_O Yeah, what really makes that figure is ultimately the jumppack lighting and exhaust grime.. The gold isn't my favorite, if the artist would pardon me saying so, but overall it looks ace. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301115-painting-sang-guard/#findComment-3903365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 I painted that model some years ago (I guess around when the Sang Guard kit first came out). There are things I would do differently when I look at it now (edge highlights for example) but personally I like the 'muted' look of the gold... @ Mort next time I do some jump packs like that I'll take some pics of the process :) You can see the rest of the unit here: http://www.themightybrush.com/?p=142 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301115-painting-sang-guard/#findComment-3903375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vettanker Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 I painted that model some years ago (I guess around when the Sang Guard kit first came out). There are things I would do differently when I look at it now (edge highlights for example) but personally I like the 'muted' look of the gold... @ Mort next time I do some jump packs like that I'll take some pics of the process :) You can see the rest of the unit here: http://www.themightybrush.com/?p=142 I'm not normally a fan of lighting effects, mostly because most ppl muck it up IMO, but that jump pack is awesome and I'd love to see how you did it too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301115-painting-sang-guard/#findComment-3903718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigted Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 Alright, I've finished the test model. I think I'll use him as a Captain or something. I'll post pics ASAP. I think he looks pretty good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301115-painting-sang-guard/#findComment-3903763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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