Nicodemus Doloroso Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 I believe the Sicaran also allows some bonus to reserves, which is another selling point for people, correct? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301248-could-a-mass-jumper-list-work/page/2/#findComment-3908242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairojin Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 No, that's the Damocles command Rhino. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301248-could-a-mass-jumper-list-work/page/2/#findComment-3908276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ravel Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 @Nicodemus : I meant the Gatling Gun, sorry for the mispell. Actually I deployed nothing on the battlefield. He had secured the backfield of his deployment zone, so I wouldn't have been able to charge for at least 2 turn, only moving. I therefore thought that it would be best to deepstrike everything to get out of LOS for as long as I could. The Dreadnought was the only one on board, but I deepstriked him far from his main forces to do dammage without being subject to retaliation. He attacked some troops near a far objective (still ended up dead because of a failed 7inch charge even with the magna grapple). If I would run more scout, I think I would run them in packs of 5-10 with CCW to be able to serve as counter-deepstrike in my zone. Since they charge at S5 I5, they would do great, even against pod or termi or whatever outflank. Of course they may not win, but if they can deny long enough the fact you are loosing your own deployment zone, then its worth it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301248-could-a-mass-jumper-list-work/page/2/#findComment-3908281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnorriSnorrison Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 And then there's the Sicaran. What does the Sicaran do that makes it so worthwhile apparently? I'm just curious since I don't have the rules for it, nor any weapon profiles. Thanks in advance. Snorri It's AV 13/12/12 with a twin-linked accelerator autocannon. Heavy 6, rending and it ignores jink. Also you can give it lascannons or heavy bolter sponsons and ceramite plating. It has better shooting than a land raider IMO and doesn't have to pay for the ability to transport. Oh, and it's fast. Vad härlig! Många tack, broder! That sounds amazing. And it sounds like a viable anti-air option compared to a stormraven. But I'm derailing this thread. Carry on, everyone. Snorri edit: spelling Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301248-could-a-mass-jumper-list-work/page/2/#findComment-3908393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 And then there's the Sicaran. What does the Sicaran do that makes it so worthwhile apparently? I'm just curious since I don't have the rules for it, nor any weapon profiles. Thanks in advance. Snorri It's AV 13/12/12 with a twin-linked accelerator autocannon. Heavy 6, rending and it ignores jink. Also you can give it lascannons or heavy bolter sponsons and ceramite plating. It has better shooting than a land raider IMO and doesn't have to pay for the ability to transport. Oh, and it's fast. Vad härlig! Många tack, broder! That sounds amazing. And it sounds like a viable anti-air option compared to a stormraven. But I'm derailing this thread. Carry on, everyone. Snorri edit: spelling From everyone is telling me it's basically a better baal predator. There's also a legacy of glory that can give it tank hunters and 4+ haywire which is perfect for me because i play against the necron haywire bomb all the time. For the list I'm thinking of not going completely jumper and run a but more combined arms. DC in my opinion are now the premier jump assault squad. Command squads will make good melta suicide squads but I'm not sure they or assault marines are better in that role. Assault marines seem useful to me for target saturation. I might end up running more bikes and DC in my list. Also I'm really liking the idea of a sicarian I was thinking maybe two with a stormraven for support? Also thank you everyone for the ideas, batrep, and lists they are all very helpful. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301248-could-a-mass-jumper-list-work/page/2/#findComment-3908675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Yncarne Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Make sure you read the relic rules before buying a second Sicaran. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301248-could-a-mass-jumper-list-work/page/2/#findComment-3909652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted January 5, 2015 Author Share Posted January 5, 2015 Make sure you read the relic rules before buying a second Sicaran. Yeah I need to email forgeworld about that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301248-could-a-mass-jumper-list-work/page/2/#findComment-3909765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Make sure you read the relic rules before buying a second Sicaran. Yeah I need to email forgeworld about that. I did before Christmas, but I've had no reply yet :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301248-could-a-mass-jumper-list-work/page/2/#findComment-3909904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaezus Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Emails to FW are like royal mail it seems. Simply lost in the warp. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301248-could-a-mass-jumper-list-work/page/2/#findComment-3910041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartali Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I think there's just one concern you need to deal with, and that is rear claiming. ASMs and other jumpers are priced for assault. Keeping them back for objectives is a poor choice and a poor use of points. As a result, i would consider grabbing 2x Vengeance Batteries of choice. Alternatively, you can make use of the troop tax, and put las-caddy TACs at the back. Infiltrating scout units will synergize well with a predominantly jumping list. If you're ever thinking about running a jumper heavy list, I heartly recommend using Maelstrom missions (or similar) which heavily favours things like Jumpers, Bikes, Thunderwolf Cav etc Maelstrom pushes objectives into the middle of the table, and rewards fast durable units. It also tones down things like Wave Serpent Eldar, as they have to come into punching distance in midfield to score. Malestrom missions are heavily flawed, but they're still by far the best thing about 7th ed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301248-could-a-mass-jumper-list-work/page/2/#findComment-3910102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Yncarne Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 @That One Marshal I meant that a second relic requires specific models to use. Of course, you an ignore that rule, but I suspect your opponent will change her mind once they experience how good a Sicaran can be. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301248-could-a-mass-jumper-list-work/page/2/#findComment-3910176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaezus Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Would be pretty heinous to ignore that rule, I would feel bad about doing that! May be worth explaining the situation to your oppo and asking if another special character could do the job in meantime i.e. mephy, corbs, dante Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301248-could-a-mass-jumper-list-work/page/2/#findComment-3910187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Marshal Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Tried mass jumpers today and I really enjoyed it, my list was 20 assault marinesjumppacks 5 suicide assault marinea, 20 tacticals drop pods, 10 death company, Dante, astorath, captain, storm raven I loved it! The speed, the hitting power, the board control it was all awesome. Battle report to follow Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301248-could-a-mass-jumper-list-work/page/2/#findComment-3912323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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