Praefectus Invictus Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Is the Sicaran battle tank worth the money. Judging by forge world it is one of their most popular kits, being on the top 10 sales list for November. I really would like to get this tank, but the guys in my local store are really cautious about playing against Imperial Knights, Forgeworld or even Flyers. I personally am fine playing against the things, I like a challenge. But I wouldn't want to get it and then not be able to use it. (Also, where do you find the rules for it?) What have your experiences with the tank been? Has anyone ever said you can't use it in a friendly game? Thanks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301283-sicaran-worth-it/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvmoogy Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Absolutely worth it!!! They look awesome, they play really well and if your opponents are too chicken to play against it, use it as a proxy for something else! http://lmgtfy.com/?q=rules+for+the+sicaran+battle+tank The Sicaran Battle Tank, designed by Phil Stutcinskas, is a complete resin kit. The rules for this model can be found in the Horus Heresy Book 2: Massacre. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301283-sicaran-worth-it/#findComment-3905848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabbala Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 One of my opponents uses it on occasion, it's not that bad to face. There are worse things in the FW armory! The rules are in the HH:Massacre book. Our group was FW adverse but we just took the leap. We evaluate units after play testing it a game or two. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301283-sicaran-worth-it/#findComment-3905850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaezus Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 The Sicaran is a good unit, not an overpowered one. The FAQ bringing its AV 13-13-13 down to 13-12-12 levelled it somewhat, but that accelerator autocannon is still a beaut - it shows no respect for armour of any kind, nor MCs nor fairy jink saves. A beautiful beast. And because this is BA of the B&C and the gents on here are rightfully known to be the finest of the emperor's internet-dwelling warriors, I would just like to say that I have a friend who knows someone whose friend knows....places. Places where treasures long thought unattainable and beyond the budget of mere frater are available in perfectly legitimate abundance at a much, much more attainable trade value. Places where secret scriptures of old STCs are given freely to those who truly appreciate their value... ...I hate talking in riddles, but I do love this place and my dear brethren... *whistles and taps finger on table* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301283-sicaran-worth-it/#findComment-3905890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 The 40k rules in IA 2:war machines of the adeptus astartes. I've been thinking about buying it as well but the price of both the rules and the model have thrown me off. Might buy it still. I think Morticon brought to a tournament and it did pretty well for him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301283-sicaran-worth-it/#findComment-3905894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairojin Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I've only played two games with the new codex and also these two games were my first games of 7th ed. First game I had a Baal predator and second game I had the same list but a Sicaran instead. My first impression is that the Sicaran is everything I wish the Baal was. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301283-sicaran-worth-it/#findComment-3905898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Flyers and FMC are starting to make a come back - this tank really ruins their day plus it's brutal versus serpents. I rate it A+ . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301283-sicaran-worth-it/#findComment-3905944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marine7312000 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I can't say how well it performs in game, but it is definitely the first model I'll have bought from FW in 10+ years. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301283-sicaran-worth-it/#findComment-3905961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landrick Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 i am thinking about picking it up as well. i made a small order to FW to get the free shipping voucher... i am just not quite sure what i will get. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301283-sicaran-worth-it/#findComment-3905968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaezus Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I ran two for a few games. Had THE most ridiculously BAD dice in the first game and they did literally nothing. My oppo found it funny, I nearly cried :D Second game they were effective through volume of fire, third game they got their act together and chewed up a WK, 2 wave serpents and 9 jetbikes between them. Best leveller we can take vs eldar filthery. This was pre-new dex mind. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301283-sicaran-worth-it/#findComment-3905976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Would you guys run it with sponsons? If you do which one? I was leaning towards las cannons. Also what legacies do you give it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301283-sicaran-worth-it/#findComment-3905980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marine7312000 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I would actually magnetize the sponsons so I could swap between them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301283-sicaran-worth-it/#findComment-3905992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaezus Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Seems to be a common theme that lascannons tend to either miss or hit but not penetrate. I'm still taking them because they made the difference between killing a WS in one turn or not. Schism of Mars if I don't run Caestus. Depends on your meta of course. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301283-sicaran-worth-it/#findComment-3906005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Its good enough I run it in my BA and CSM armies. Its best features are its low pts, ignore jink and fast tank. Its not so hard to face, for BA I'll be running 1-2 with 1-2 fast vindicators. Brutal elegance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301283-sicaran-worth-it/#findComment-3906006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsijben Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 The rules are in IA2-SE. I like the Schism of Mars-Legacy with Lascannons; giving it Tank Hunter and some other small bonuses. Tank Hunter is such a gigantic boost for his Rending main-weapon and it also aids the Lascannons. Battle of Sarosh is nice if you know that once per game you really have to annihilate a flyer. TL, Skyfire, Rending, Tank Hunter, Ignoring Jink, Night Vision.. All of that on 6 shots of S7 will destroy whatever you point it at. War of Murder is interesting if you face a lot of MC-armies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301283-sicaran-worth-it/#findComment-3906032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I have fielded it twice (by proxy) in 30k against 40k and it's always performed well for me. If I could afford it, I'd buy a real one in a heartbeat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301283-sicaran-worth-it/#findComment-3906051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praefectus Invictus Posted January 1, 2015 Author Share Posted January 1, 2015 So the Imperial Armour book contains rules for it, Legacies of glory and contemptors? If so I might get it for a) the free shipping voucher and b) the rules. Thanks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301283-sicaran-worth-it/#findComment-3906065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 So the Imperial Armour book contains rules for it, Legacies of glory and contemptors? If so I might get it for a) the free shipping voucher and b) the rules. Thanks Correct. It's a great book. OP, if you look in the BA resources there's a review written during the sixth edition for this rank and us. (I'd link it but i'm on my phone. Sorry.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301283-sicaran-worth-it/#findComment-3906136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297085-imperial-armour-discussion-tanks/ here you go op. Funny enough I was just reading through that myself. Since running more than one sicarian is too expensive money wise what units would you guys say complements the sicarian I was thinking baal predators or vindicators for someone av 13. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301283-sicaran-worth-it/#findComment-3906138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praefectus Invictus Posted January 1, 2015 Author Share Posted January 1, 2015 http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297085-imperial-armour-discussion-tanks/ here you go op. Funny enough I was just reading through that myself. Since running more than one sicarian is too expensive money wise what units would you guys say complements the sicarian I was thinking baal predators or vindicators for someone av 13. Thanks, I'll go have a look now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301283-sicaran-worth-it/#findComment-3906151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsijben Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 So the Imperial Armour book contains rules for it, Legacies of glory and contemptors? If so I might get it for a) the free shipping voucher and the rules. Thanks From Forge World itself, it is really a great book: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/AlternativeFW/xlarge/IA2_contents.jpg I already have a Sicaran Battle Tank, now I'm saving up for a Fire Raptor Gunship. And I am still waiting for a model for our Contemptor Dreadnought. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301283-sicaran-worth-it/#findComment-3906272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landrick Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Have any of you tried out the Fire Raptor or Caestus? I am thinking about picking one of them up as well Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301283-sicaran-worth-it/#findComment-3906775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praefectus Invictus Posted January 2, 2015 Author Share Posted January 2, 2015 Yeah a Fire Raptor would be pretty fun to play with. The rules look pretty good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301283-sicaran-worth-it/#findComment-3906789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Fire Raptor is amazing, don't rely on it cracking a monolith but its great anti AV and an excellent character assassin. Its won a few battles for me now. A Sicaran runs very well with 2 of our vindicators, its a hell of a threat and can really spread the hurt around. Caestus is the next thing I want to try, it seems a bit like the Spartan which is also amazing but I've not used it yet, any tips fellas? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301283-sicaran-worth-it/#findComment-3906814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deschenus Maximus Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Small tangent, but do you guys figure that a Land Raider with a Predator turret on top would be a fair standin for a Sicaran? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301283-sicaran-worth-it/#findComment-3906836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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