hellhound92 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Hail brothers, What do you guys kit out your hq choices, and relics particularly? Thanks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301290-best-relic/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brom MKIV Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Mine have ranged from nothing to each of the relics other than the relic bolter. My libbys usually have ndh, then cuirass if points allow. Its incredibly useful on a ml3 psyker. I also like liber daemonica if the main plan is sanctic. I've used bone shard on one before, vs daemons its great value and probably still worth a look after your bases are all covered even for an unknown meta if you suspect daemonic presence. GMs I pretty much stick with liber daemonica psycan and a nemesis weapon of choice, lately the falchions. I've tried other relics here but my preference is pretty set. I do love the soul glaive but I can't always make use of it due to movement 6" so I don't take it anymore although it's a great item too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301290-best-relic/#findComment-3906037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 None. You generally should only be taking relics at 2k or higher. Below that, we need every point we can get on more essential upgrades. The two common choices are Cuirass (because it makes your GM absurdly tough to S7- hits) and Liber (people who take Sanctic on their Librarian really want the extra power roll to fish for 'Gate' and 'Sanctuary'). Soul Glaive is awesome but our HQ's don't normally need help in melee, AP3 also holds you back against 2+ save heroes and monsters. The rest are trash. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301290-best-relic/#findComment-3906177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deamon Wolf Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I agree with Darius if we ever get a supplement then we may get something worth taking Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301290-best-relic/#findComment-3906252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath of Humanity Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 I think we are gonna get a supplement about Purifiers with some Purifier detachments which makes them troops. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301290-best-relic/#findComment-3906699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay170788 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 I think we are gonna get a supplement about Purifiers with some Purifier detachments which makes them troops. I admire your optimism just wish to God I shared it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301290-best-relic/#findComment-3906886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deamon Wolf Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 I'm still hoping for a paladin supplement Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301290-best-relic/#findComment-3907013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterRehab Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 I'm just hoping for a supplement.. of any kind, really. Nothing can really make it worse. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301290-best-relic/#findComment-3907129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deamon Wolf Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 The Dex is ok it just needs a little polish And a supplement is the polish that our dex could use Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301290-best-relic/#findComment-3907141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brom MKIV Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 The relics are worth taking, just very situational but also very powerful in those situations. For example, when your trying to force through invis against another psychic heavy army you will invariably perils, and often multiple times. Losing your psyker in these types of games can often mean a straight loss. Cuirass mitigates that wonderfully. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301290-best-relic/#findComment-3907369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Yeah I often forget you can FNP Perils. It's still only on a 5+ though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301290-best-relic/#findComment-3907775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Caloth Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Better than nothing, not to mention IWND, to potentially recover lost wounds as well. I ALWAYS put it on my grand master Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301290-best-relic/#findComment-3907837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Oh yeah on a Grandmaster, with his 3 wounds and 4+ invul, it's much better value. On Libby's I find leaving them bare-bones is the way to go, as you need points elsewhere and 110 for a HQ is already mid-range in terms of cost. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301290-best-relic/#findComment-3907938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deamon Wolf Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 110 for a lib Is still pricy compaired to the csm lib or the csw rp Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301290-best-relic/#findComment-3908043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 110 for a lib Is still pricy compaired to the csm lib or the csw rp Yeah but you're forgetting you get Adamantium Will and Mastery 2, plus TDA for free. The other Marine psykers have to pay for those things, which quickly brings their cost back up to a GK Libby's price. Plus you get Sanctic access, nemesis weaponry, Aegis, Preferred Enemy: Daemons...we're basically getting Libby's at a discount. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301290-best-relic/#findComment-3908495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz1858 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 I like the Liber on my Libby. He drops with three 5 man purifier squads around him so rerolling 1s is really helpful for getting off multiple cleansing flames Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301290-best-relic/#findComment-3908512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I take the Liber on a Libby. Getting Sanctuary and Vortex of Doom can really help. The vortex D strength blast is actually an effective means of dealing with an Mc or Vehicle. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301290-best-relic/#findComment-3908587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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