Amarog Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 So I have my first game of the year and EVER with my wolves on monday. I'm playing a friend at my local club who plays imperial guard. Now i've played him a few times with my vanilla marines, won some, lost some. Just thought i'd hit a post up here to see if you guys had any tips when using wolves against them with regards to "must haves" in my army list. I imagine it's going to be 1500pts as thats our standard and i KNOW he will be taking his usual unit of 3 dirty spam tanks with plasma and battlecannons. I know once i get into combat with any of his troops he is dead, theyre very obliging in the way they like to run away and get run down, but obviously they have a lot of fire power. thanks in advance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301410-1st-game-with-wolves-vs-guard/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morik Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 5 PAWG in drop ponds all with combi meltas one for each of his tanks seem like a great way to ruin his day! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301410-1st-game-with-wolves-vs-guard/#findComment-3908392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatSmasher Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 I think you should try to pod the following, combi melta team, grey hunter melta team, or Dred with MM, or bliz dred I would reccomend a Las team to shoot the lighter armour so you can focus your melta on the heavy tanks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301410-1st-game-with-wolves-vs-guard/#findComment-3908435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoyo ninja Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Meltas, lots of meltas! And powerfists and drop pods, get in amongst his army so blast weapons become just as dangerous for him as you. Last time I played IG I dropped some melta GHs and my mate shot two of his own chimeras trying to hit the GHs, blew them both up and killed most of the guards in them. I did chuckle hard that day, He did not. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301410-1st-game-with-wolves-vs-guard/#findComment-3908474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarog Posted January 3, 2015 Author Share Posted January 3, 2015 Awesome cheers guys. I will throw together a list tomorrow and post it up. Then let you know the outcome on Monday lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301410-1st-game-with-wolves-vs-guard/#findComment-3908492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Post the list in this thread as opposed to army section. It will be easier to find :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301410-1st-game-with-wolves-vs-guard/#findComment-3908742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarog Posted January 5, 2015 Author Share Posted January 5, 2015 OK so Herr is the draft. HQ. Wolf lord on mount with 2 wolves - black death, runic. Elites. Wolf guard, 5 men inc 1 as wgpl. 2 th and ss, 2 pair of claw and one with frost sword and storm bolter. All with melts bombs. Wolf scouts, 6 men, 5 sniper and 1 heavy bolter. Troops. Blood claw 15 men inc wgpl who has dual wolf claws. Includes and melta and flamer. All in a stormgrr. Grey hunters, 10 men, pack leader with claw. 2 x plasma. In a drop pod. HS. 2 whirlwinds 1494. ....... Feel free to rip into that. I am new with the Wolfie's. Working with what I have and never been good with list building lol. Should I take anything else instead of something? I have termies available. Or speeders. Land raiders. Dreads. Thanks :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301410-1st-game-with-wolves-vs-guard/#findComment-3910212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Okay. I printed your list and ripped the paper apart. The result? Three major issues. First, scouts are as useless as they get against IG, who either have T3 en mass or AV. Second, the WG pack. What is their purpose? Are they on foot? They need a transport. Thirdly, why is the Lord solo? He won't make it past the midfield. I am also not sold the Claw on the WGPL. Rest is decent enough ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301410-1st-game-with-wolves-vs-guard/#findComment-3910223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarog Posted January 5, 2015 Author Share Posted January 5, 2015 Okay. I printed your list and ripped the paper apart. The result? Three major issues. First, scouts are as useless as they get against IG, who either have T3 en mass or AV. Second, the WG pack. What is their purpose? Are they on foot? They need a transport. Thirdly, why is the Lord solo? He won't make it past the midfield. I am also not sold the Claw on the WGPL. Rest is decent enough ;) Lol rest is decent .. Nice touch. Sorry I forgot the wolf guard are in a razorback with lasconnon. Dunno why the lord is solo...ran out of points? Lol. Take the scouts out and sub in speeders or something? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301410-1st-game-with-wolves-vs-guard/#findComment-3910362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoyo ninja Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 How did it go? What list did you take in the end? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301410-1st-game-with-wolves-vs-guard/#findComment-3911109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarog Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share Posted January 6, 2015 i took the scouts out and put 2 speeders in. the rest was the same. although i added a couple of wolves with my lord as i had spare points. got to turn 5. turn 2 my stormwolf loaded with claws came in, it didn't hit with its twin las, 2 x twin melta and twin hellfrost.. wow, then turn 3 i thought, he's bound to hit this time, only one melta hit and didnt pen with both dice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! im gonna burn it!! but it was a close game, my wolf lord joined the wolf guard once they disembarked on turn 2. moved forward. turn 3 is when it all happened. his tank and gun range tore some of my grey hunters. my whirlwinds hit well and destroyed 2 of his blob infantry units. so turn 3, charged into another large unit with lord and wolf guard, destroyed 20 men in the first assault phase love it. blood claws disembarked from the flying useless pile of .... took out his warlord and unit. however on his turn 3 the tanks (which had all their HP's due to the stormgrr doing naff all) decimated my lord and his whole unit of wolves and wolf guard. then turn 4 my claws (2x melta gun and a power fist) attempted to hurt his tanks and failed, then were then also evaporated by cannon fire. turn 5 i called it as i had only 2 whirlwinds and 2 grey hunters hiding behind a ruin. sad times but good fun. overall if the stormgrr did its blooming job his tanks (unit of 3) should have been down to a single tank by the end of my shooting in turn 3. ah well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301410-1st-game-with-wolves-vs-guard/#findComment-3911832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoyo ninja Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Sounds like my dice luck with the stormwolf!haha. sounds like u needed a bit of an alpha strike to get rid of some of those tanks. Maybe next time put the WG with combi meltas in a drop pod? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301410-1st-game-with-wolves-vs-guard/#findComment-3912091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarog Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share Posted January 7, 2015 Yea DEFINATELY. It was literally just his tanks that did me any damage. Next time I play him though, I'm bringing the pain. And maybe some new dice haha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301410-1st-game-with-wolves-vs-guard/#findComment-3912620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoyo ninja Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Yea, I would concentrate on his tanks, the infantry will fall over when looked at funny, just get some claws to deal with them (I love sky claws for this. I have killed a 35 strong squad of termigants in one turn with 5 sky claws and a wolf priest before, for massed infantry they rule!). Also personaly I would have taken the Lord off his mount and put him with a unit, or if you really wana run him as on his mount I would find a way to put some TWC on the board, really make them a threat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301410-1st-game-with-wolves-vs-guard/#findComment-3912798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarog Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share Posted January 7, 2015 i do plan on expanding a lot more still. as ive only been doing wolves since very recently im still in the development phase of things. not got a lot but a good amount. definately want the option to field TWC. and perhaps the dreads. i do still have my old vanilla marines which is handy for allies to give me the option of raven / talon, centurions etc Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301410-1st-game-with-wolves-vs-guard/#findComment-3912891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoyo ninja Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 It's a slog getting everything ready but you will get there. Im still trying to get my army to a standard where Im happy with everything. I keep buying models I like insted of what will be useful!haha. Recently splashed out on a knight Titan, it's awesome beond what I expected, but I can't get into a list that is less than 1850 without making my list lacking it some area!lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301410-1st-game-with-wolves-vs-guard/#findComment-3912988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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