Flesh Tearers Specialists

[jifel]

Hello all! I'm rather new to the Blood Angels corner of B&C, as I'm a Nid player by trade that dabbles in Chaos. But with Shield of Baal coming out, I picked it up for the Nids and decided to start a Flesh Tearers army. In addition to the Deathstorm box, I picked up an assault squad and Tac squad and 2 Rhinos. I understand competitive 40k pretty well, so I'm not looking for too much advice there, this army is more of a fun project that I want to be fluffy and look good. Anyways, onto the questions...

 

For the units that are not going to be painted "Standard", like DC and Sanguinary Guard, how should they be painted? I was thinking for DC that I would stick with the traditional Black armor, and just make sure that all of the Blood decorations are a darker red than that seen on BA ones. Nothing too complicated there. Now, the tricky part is the Sanguinary Guard that I would like to add at some point. I recall reading that Seth, the Flesh Tearers Chapter Master, hated the gold armor of the Sanguinary Guard because they were trying to hide their true nature of being cursed. This makes me question, do the Flesh Tearers even maintain a contingent of Sanguinary guard? If they do, I imagine they are armored rather differently. If I decide to use them, I was thinking of either painting their armor all black/grey and using robes and hooded helmets (combined with their winged jump packs) to make them appear as Angels of Death. Alternatively, I was thinking of using some spare gargoyle wings to replace their Angel wings and make them look much more intimidating, reflecting their brutal nature. 

 

Finally, on the rank and file Marines themselves: I get the sense that FT are less flashy with their armor, and thus would be less blinged up with Wings and Blood Drops than the actual BA themselves. To counter this, I was going to evenly mix vanilla and BA tactical parts to make them appear less flashy than the BA, but still noticeably a successor chapter of them. 

 

Any thoughts on the above, or general advice on FT? Also, if anyone has any links to some good FT Blogs/Threads, that'd be appreciated! Thanks all

[Lucien Eilam]

They may be too understrength to field Sanguinary Guard any more, or maybe too few survive long enough to earn a spot. But officially they had them once, and they were gold:

 

So it was that the Sanguinary Guard survived where their Primarch did not, for Azkaellon made certain that their legacy was maintained, not just in the Blood Angels, but in every Successor Chapter that arose from the dissolution of the mighty Blood Angels Legion.

 

The successor Chapters invariably maintain a Sanguinary Guard and Death Company of their own, following the same colour schemes as those laid down by the Blood Angels. The only exception are the Angels Encarmine, who adorn both these specialist units in alabaster white armour.

The Studio Flesh Tearers army shown in Shield of Baal: Exterminatus has Death Company in the standard scheme.

 

I recall reading that Seth, the Flesh Tearers Chapter Master, hated the gold armor of the Sanguinary Guard because they were trying to hide their true nature of being cursed.

I think it's more the death masks and the unblemished nature of their armour he objected to than the colour. Dude carries gold wings on his back half his own height, so he's hardly in any position to judge on that score.

 

Yet for all his skill as an orator, Seth knew it to be a facade. Of all the Chapter Masters, Dante alone was helmed. A gilded death mask obscured his face, at once cruel and beautiful.

 

Seth released the breath he had been holding, easing the tension from his muscles. He both admired and pitied Dante. To be forced to hide his own rage behind such a mask would have driven Seth mad. That Dante endured it had always been reason enough for Seth to accept the Blood Angel as first among equals.

 

[…]

 

Framed by wings of the purest white, they were clad in armour of polished gold. They wore ornate helms, glistening faceplates wrought into sneering smiles. The Blood Angels. First amongst the sons of Sanguinius, only they were arrogant enough to hide their rage behind masks of gold and brass.

 

Seth’s face crumpled in disdain. Beauty on the outside did not remove the beast within.

 

[…]

 

Seth scowled at the sight of Tycho’s unblemished battleplate. Like Anachiel’s, it was polished gold and glistened under the white light of the glow-lamps studding the chamber. ‘You may call me brother when you stand beside me in battle, bleeding in the dirt instead of cowering here among these clerks and serfs.’

If you want them, beaten up, weathered armour and no death masks would be my suggestion.

[SamaNagol]

I actually asked Andy Smillie what he thought. He was under the impression that they didnt have any now. But if you want to do them, I would say black wings, no helmets. DC would be exactly the same.

 

And it is nice that we kind of have an official vehicle colour scheme now. For the longest it was up in the air and while that led to some incredible interpretations, most notably the 'toothed saw' pattern schemes, it annoyed me as there was nothing official. I am now using the studio hobby team army scheme from Exterminatus which is almost an inverted scheme from our armour. Mostly black with red accents.

[t4play]

I'm sure I read somewhere that Sanguinary guard, and terminator armour was all but gone, only 1 battle tank etc - few live long enough to make veteran fluff wise.

But most FT players use any / all BA units available

[SamaNagol]

The only 1 battle tank thing was from the White Dwarf article in 5th ed. They haven't got an abundance of vehicles, but they definitely have enough. Which is logical tbh, their problem is losing Marines to the Black Rage, not losing equipment and vehicles.

 

I wouldn't play them in a 'themed' list with like 5 Land Raiders, but dont feel you cant take a couple of different tanks.

[t4play]

As I said most use and field anything available to BA codex I run FT mech (or should I say did now the Baals have been nurf'd) but you asked about fluff I tried to give you a little they left terra with 1 battle tank but numerous rhino chassis vehicles and a high number of dreadnoughts were acquired, as you say that was down to the rage

 

It wasn't so much a case of lose equipment, they just didn't get any given to them when they left in a hurry going after Horus in the 1 old battle cruiser ( forget it's name )

[SamaNagol]

The Victus probably