Castrmen Orth Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I have been toying with the idea of starting a heresy force. I've always had a strong liking for the isstvaan v survivors. I plan to theme it as mainly an iron hands force with any assault troops and recon squads painted as raven guard, and any flamer squads Tec as salamanders, and here is where it gets controversial, any destroyer units painted as salamanders also. Salamanders don't use destroyers though right? But I have this crazy idea of a bunch of bitter survivors faced with the scope of their losses turning down a darker path and taking up any and all weapons to punish those responsible. Thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301531-shattered-no-longer/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Of all the bits of salamander stuff I've read, 99.9% of them remain true to their ideals. The Raven guard do what they are told to, usually by iron hands unless your name happens to be my nykona. The iron hands will do all kinds of crazy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301531-shattered-no-longer/#findComment-3910433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Bearclaw Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 While Salamanders didn't favour Destroyers, preferring the cleaner Pyroclasts, they still did maintain a small cadre exclusively for use in xenocide operations. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301531-shattered-no-longer/#findComment-3910444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Actually, the Sallies did have Destroyers exclusively for Xenocide operations - you could always go with the idea that in light of the Heresy, these guys eschewed their former restraint Edit: Ninja'd Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301531-shattered-no-longer/#findComment-3910454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Teeth Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 It often goes unnoticed that the Salamanders 'No Destroyer & Moritat' rule only applies to Primary Detachments. There is nothing stopping you fielding an Iron Hands force with an allied Salamander detachment which includes a Destroyer unit. Now, with the change to non-compulsory HQ's for the Moritat, you can't use these at all as there's only 1 HQ slot in the Allied FoC. Unfortunate, but at least you cam still do a Destroyer squad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301531-shattered-no-longer/#findComment-3910457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castrmen Orth Posted January 5, 2015 Author Share Posted January 5, 2015 Cheers for the replies guys, think this will be a good looking force, with potential to ease me into the heresy proper Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301531-shattered-no-longer/#findComment-3910464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arac Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 I am pretty sure they announced some kind of Shattered Legions Army List. I always guessed that it would combine all the surviving Legions from the Isstvaan V Massacre. So in some far future you wouldnt have to rely on seperate detachements but a combined army list. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301531-shattered-no-longer/#findComment-3911112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 It often goes unnoticed that the Salamanders 'No Destroyer & Moritat' rule only applies to Primary Detachments. There is nothing stopping you fielding an Iron Hands force with an allied Salamander detachment which includes a Destroyer unit. Now, with the change to non-compulsory HQ's for the Moritat, you can't use these at all as there's only 1 HQ slot in the Allied FoC. Unfortunate, but at least you cam still do a Destroyer squad. Unless you run dual CAD and have the iron hands as your primary Detatchment ;) Inferno pistol moritat lol! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301531-shattered-no-longer/#findComment-3911966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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