malorn24 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 dumb question. But if I fire a lascannon out of the firing point from a rhino that has moved is it a snap shot? The rules say the vehicle is relentless but then also say that if it moves then the troops count as being moved? SOOOOOOO???? man sometimes I hate reading these rules it is like I before E except after C and in Neighbor and Weight..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl of Wulfen Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 I believe it is a snap shot. The relentless is for the weapons on the vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacinda Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Right. Mounted weapons are Relentless but carried weapons are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristoff Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 The rules for Firing Points are explicit. Combat Speed counts as Moving, Cruising Speed has everyone Snap Firing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malorn24 Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share Posted January 6, 2015 Thank you for the direct answer Kristoff however I was more concerned about the relentless rule that all vehicles have and how it applies to passengers. The logic I was using was that if a Bike made the model relentless then why would a model riding in a more stable platform not hve the same rule applied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristoff Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Does the Transport rule provide it? No. The rules for Fire Points is quite explicit and made for this exact question. If Relentless was meant to transfer, it would state it right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkAngeal Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 On page 201 of the base rule book there is a table of Speed Moved or Damage Taken with the effect on passengers firing from inside the vehicle. I'd check there if you have any confusion. I agree though, the rule SHOULD be conferred, but sadly it's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonaides Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Have you seen how much an AFV/light tank bounces while moving at speed over terrain? Its not a stable platform for people inside to actually take aimed shots... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markham82 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I second Leonaides on that one, I've almost lost teeth on two occasions. However you do kinda get used to the bouncing around but you'll never have the same aim as when standing still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venemox Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Owning a modern military bike with a sidecar, I can say with certainty that firing a bow or shotgun as the passenger... well, difficult is an understatement. And that was on relatively even terrain (not roadway). Fun, certainly. But, I'm not a far future genetically engineered super soldier, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Those are still being used? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venemox Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Yes, though predominantly by European and Asian armed forces as scout vehicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam13n Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Lets keep this to a rules discussion, if indeed there is anything more to discuss concerning this rule. Thanks. Dam13n Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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