Klazien Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 So pretty simple, im kit bashing a new Librarian, and thinking of going Sword. In our 5th edition codex it was axes all the way. But looking at Quicking and just for that I feel sword is winning. So whats the flavour out there for our Librarian with the new codex? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301732-to-axe-or-to-sword-on-a-librarian/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricPaladin Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Depends on what you want him to be good at. I'd say that in general, with the new 'dex and our new access to army-wide +1 I on the charge and Quickening, on-Initiative weapons got a huge boost. That said, if you want to be really good at gacking 'nids or 2+ opponents, nothing beats the axe. Or, for that, you could always just bring a terminator librarian, S 10 at initiative. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301732-to-axe-or-to-sword-on-a-librarian/#findComment-3914452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHarrower Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 You forgot To Staff. That's my go to now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301732-to-axe-or-to-sword-on-a-librarian/#findComment-3914470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deschenus Maximus Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Galian's Staff all the way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301732-to-axe-or-to-sword-on-a-librarian/#findComment-3914495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Or, for that, you could always just bring a terminator librarian, S 10 at initiative.I see S10 at initiative on a Librarian Dreadnought, but how do you get S10 on a TDA librarian? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301732-to-axe-or-to-sword-on-a-librarian/#findComment-3914529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricPaladin Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Or, for that, you could always just bring a terminator librarian, S 10 at initiative.I see S10 at initiative on a Librarian Dreadnought, but how do you get S10 on a TDA librarian? By bringing a librarian dreadnought, but typing "terminator" by accident. It's a little known rules loophole. Or, in real life, "my bad." That's what I meant. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301732-to-axe-or-to-sword-on-a-librarian/#findComment-3914552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Who knows maybe Mephiston is a machine that traveled back in time for some sinister purpose i.e. a terminator. He also can have S10. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301732-to-axe-or-to-sword-on-a-librarian/#findComment-3914596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaweda Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Any time I use mephiston now, the terminator theme will be played. Duh dun dun duh dun! Duh dun dun duh dun! Duh dun dun duh dun! DUH DUN DUN DUH DUN!!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301732-to-axe-or-to-sword-on-a-librarian/#findComment-3914638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Gunzhard Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I like the staff or sword, with the free initiative boost it feels like a waste to me using the axe. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301732-to-axe-or-to-sword-on-a-librarian/#findComment-3914667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 It used to be; Only character in the unit: Sword or Staff Multiple characters in the same unit: Axe I'm still leaning in that direction (primaris can be used to buff the other character in a unit after all) even with the I boost on the charge. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301732-to-axe-or-to-sword-on-a-librarian/#findComment-3914729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Or Valour's Edge for regular enemies AND a force axe for monsters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301732-to-axe-or-to-sword-on-a-librarian/#findComment-3914772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 It used to be; Only character in the unit: Sword or Staff Multiple characters in the same unit: Axe I'm still leaning in that direction (primaris can be used to buff the other character in a unit after all) even with the I boost on the charge. Still do this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301732-to-axe-or-to-sword-on-a-librarian/#findComment-3914782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klazien Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 Well Im doing a JP Librarian, so im going sword. Best take advantage of the wreaking 3+. staff might be my next project for a walking Librarian. Wasn't even thinking of that. Good ideas on how to properly use an Axe Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301732-to-axe-or-to-sword-on-a-librarian/#findComment-3914879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I decided this coeex I prefer swords. I figure my librarian will usually be with a squad with hidden power axes or power fists (dc or sg or vv) so I would rather let the libby go at iniative. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301732-to-axe-or-to-sword-on-a-librarian/#findComment-3914908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vahouth Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I would go with Gallian's staff. Other than Mephiston, I don't view Librarians as combat units, so I wouldn't bother with Valor's Edge, axes etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301732-to-axe-or-to-sword-on-a-librarian/#findComment-3915011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 It used to be; Only character in the unit: Sword or Staff Multiple characters in the same unit: Axe I'm still leaning in that direction (primaris can be used to buff the other character in a unit after all) even with the I boost on the charge. This. (Though the staff is a good call now) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301732-to-axe-or-to-sword-on-a-librarian/#findComment-3915111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddywarcrimes Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I like the axe, so that the Librarian doesn't step forward to attack until Initiative 1. By staying towards the back of the squad he's in, it takes a huge volume of wounds to get to him and potentially kill him. High Initiatives are for Dante, or Captains equipped for maximum resilience. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301732-to-axe-or-to-sword-on-a-librarian/#findComment-3915260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 The staff has a merit if you want to do damage primarily by psychic powers or indirect buffs. Personally I have a hard time getting enough WC for that, a few powers just to up combat potential works better IMHO. Unless you have allies to provide cheap extra WC. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301732-to-axe-or-to-sword-on-a-librarian/#findComment-3915281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 The staff has a merit if you want to do damage primarily by psychic powers or indirect buffs. Personally I have a hard time getting enough WC for that, a few powers just to up combat potential works better IMHO. Unless you have allies to provide cheap extra WC. I wish I could use the staff in my other army. It would be awesome there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301732-to-axe-or-to-sword-on-a-librarian/#findComment-3915342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awilden Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 If you're only having a librarian HQ and no other more nasty melee HQ could use it, the Valour's Edge is a very nice option, so if you pick a sword, you can always say that it's that, i guess if you have another HQ to use it then its more open to debate but i still prefer swords personally. I don't like the idea of the axe on less survivable units like a librarian, no invulnerable, and less wounds, i guess if you have a lot of red shirts around him its not as bad, but again like everyone else has been saying the extra Init is really nice, and the axe seems to waste that potential. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301732-to-axe-or-to-sword-on-a-librarian/#findComment-3917068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sans Mercy Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 If you're only having a librarian HQ and no other more nasty melee HQ could use it, the Valour's Edge is a very nice option, so if you pick a sword, you can always say that it's that, i guess if you have another HQ to use it then its more open to debate but i still prefer swords personally. I don't like the idea of the axe on less survivable units like a librarian, no invulnerable, and less wounds, i guess if you have a lot of red shirts around him its not as bad, but again like everyone else has been saying the extra Init is really nice, and the axe seems to waste that potential. The libby can take a storm shield for two melta bombs, just like VV. That seems pretty resonable to me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301732-to-axe-or-to-sword-on-a-librarian/#findComment-3917177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelus Mortifer Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 If you're only having a librarian HQ and no other more nasty melee HQ could use it, the Valour's Edge is a very nice option, so if you pick a sword, you can always say that it's that, i guess if you have another HQ to use it then its more open to debate but i still prefer swords personally. I don't like the idea of the axe on less survivable units like a librarian, no invulnerable, and less wounds, i guess if you have a lot of red shirts around him its not as bad, but again like everyone else has been saying the extra Init is really nice, and the axe seems to waste that potential. The libby can take a storm shield for two melta bombs, just like VV. That seems pretty resonable to me. Only in TDA though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301732-to-axe-or-to-sword-on-a-librarian/#findComment-3918055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sans Mercy Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Ah, indeed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301732-to-axe-or-to-sword-on-a-librarian/#findComment-3918160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Run them through with a sword, then give them a few good whacks with an ax. Witches burn better in pieces. ...what? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301732-to-axe-or-to-sword-on-a-librarian/#findComment-3918343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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