Lord Blackwood Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I have been wondering if runic armor is really worth the 25 extra points on a Krakenbone Sword , Stormshield Wolf LordIf you are going to take the storm shield anyway do you really need to pay the extra 25 points , it isint like the ap 2 bypasses yer invul sure a 2+ is nice but if you are trying to make a very tightly tuned list is it worth it just taking power armor and the stormshield and having 3+/3++ if it means fitting in another cavalry remember with those points? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301880-the-runic-armor-question/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fang_Guard23 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 With Runic armor you might want that 2+ save in the case you go up against ap3 which a lot of armies tend to have now. Its also great to help make them a little more survivable, its a little better then TDA cause if you charge through difficult terrain you don't get the reduced initiative penalty. It reduces the potential of getting killed, a 2+/3++ is a good survivability rating. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301880-the-runic-armor-question/#findComment-3917772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted January 12, 2015 Author Share Posted January 12, 2015 the question would be runic armor vs power armor on a krakenbone wolf lord on a thunderwolf with a stormshield Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301880-the-runic-armor-question/#findComment-3917774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I would not leave home without it, considering how often I notice Harald or TWC die to a 2. Krakenboner is not as much an offensive powerhouse as he is a tank with strong offensive capabilities. If you wanted an offensive powerhouse, you would take Fist/Claw + re-rolls. As it stands, you are looking at a tanky IC and needs to survive it all and 100% more saves against high AP weapons (S7 spam being the bane of his existance) is very worth the 20pts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301880-the-runic-armor-question/#findComment-3917789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 A 2+ save is TWICE as survivable as a 3+ save. Leaving aside AP etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301880-the-runic-armor-question/#findComment-3917802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I also never leave home without it on any of my characters that can take it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301880-the-runic-armor-question/#findComment-3918000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlodVargarna Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Do you guys take Runic on lower 500pt 1000pt lists? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301880-the-runic-armor-question/#findComment-3918070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Of cause. Even on 500 points I refuse to be skimpy with my HQ. Full set, including TWM and RA and sometimes SS. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301880-the-runic-armor-question/#findComment-3918081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Do you guys take Runic on lower 500pt 1000pt lists? I might use a cheaper battle leader or Wolf Priest but they still get Runic Armor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301880-the-runic-armor-question/#findComment-3918086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I buy Runic Armour even if there is no option of buying Runic Armour. Hell, I wear Runic Armour when I go to uni. Yes, I am expecting a lot of gunfire in the lecture halls. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301880-the-runic-armor-question/#findComment-3918107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Ridcully Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Plus the runes protect from the all the Maeliffic artefacts stored in the dept, or any curses on excavations.Runic armour just seems to good to pass up, the 2+ being a huge increase in survivabilty in challanges, though I admit I usually go for Armour of russ as for just two melta bombs more it gets a 4++ and the -5 to enemy initiative, allowing the likes of rune priests to be pretty good in challenges if you swap the axe for a sword or staff.Not sure I'd ever give it to wolf lord or wolf priest though as they already have the 4++, with runic armour the main point of it is the 2+ so on them sure, though both can get expensive if you take other wargear (thunderwolf mount, jump pack ect) and so maybe not take it to save points. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301880-the-runic-armor-question/#findComment-3918166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORKILL Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Krakenbone man is a beast! He rips through nearly everything, I just wish he was EW. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301880-the-runic-armor-question/#findComment-3918207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightHowler Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Runic armor is kind of expensive, but I put it on everyone who can take it. I've never understood why Ulric and Ragnar didn't have the best armor the Space Wolves could afford. It makes me wonder if they didn't do something to upset someone in the supply department... "Sorry Ragnar, that new set of Runic Armor is still on order. I'll call again today, but there's no telling when it will get here." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301880-the-runic-armor-question/#findComment-3918221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgr_maddog Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I've got a couple lists that do not use RA, but they are generally cheap WGBL or RP spam. If you are putting more than 30 or so points in added gear, RA is near automatic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301880-the-runic-armor-question/#findComment-3918257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Runic armor is kind of expensive, but I put it on everyone who can take it. I've never understood why Ulric and Ragnar didn't have the best armor the Space Wolves could afford. It makes me wonder if they didn't do something to upset someone in the supply department... "Sorry Ragnar, that new set of Runic Armor is still on order. I'll call again today, but there's no telling when it will get here." Nah man, Ragnar and Ulric need XXL, while the only STC from the Heresy Era only allows to build XXXL. They are screwed until the Iron Priests can rediscover the arcane art of custom fit armour ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301880-the-runic-armor-question/#findComment-3918264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgr_maddog Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Runic armor is kind of expensive, but I put it on everyone who can take it. I've never understood why Ulric and Ragnar didn't have the best armor the Space Wolves could afford. It makes me wonder if they didn't do something to upset someone in the supply department... "Sorry Ragnar, that new set of Runic Armor is still on order. I'll call again today, but there's no telling when it will get here." The Iron Priests got pretty pissed going through all that work fabricating that giant wolf head on his shoulder pad, and now he want's a new set of RA... your going to have to wait Ragnar. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301880-the-runic-armor-question/#findComment-3918265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skallagoose Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Honestly it really depends. I do like runic armor and its great on thunder wolves, especially with a storm shield 2+/3++ is a beautiful thing. HOWEVER, if you play like me, in which i ALWAYS allocate wounds to other models in the unit then it really isn't adding much. I take it when i know I'm going to be accepting/issuing a lot of challenges, but if i don't have it i just have a squad leader accepting/issuing the challenges instead. I like the idea of having a lord on a thunder wolf with it, but if you have an iron priest in the unit i think you should be good with that. Comes down to play style. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301880-the-runic-armor-question/#findComment-3918269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune_Priest_Rhapsody Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I will even take Runic Armor on a Powerfist / Wolf Claw Thunderwolf Lord, which is my go to build, as you will see, brother Bladewolf!! In regards to the Stormshield / Krackenbone Sword Lord, I would absolutely take it. In my game yesterday against two Baledrakes, my lord would of died many times over. Instead he tanked the :cuss out of multiple wounds. As mentioned already, the increasing amount of AP2 running through most, if not all armies, is enough to make me want to run it. Especially on my important characters. End of Line Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301880-the-runic-armor-question/#findComment-3918315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rift Blade Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 On my HQ's, I almost always take RA simply because we play a lot of the objective table games here & being a Wolf, I get a lot of VP's with challenges usually. It's a little ridiculous how much more survivable an HQ with 2+ is over one with a 3+. My last game, my WGBL took Belial in a challenge. It was close, but he did it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301880-the-runic-armor-question/#findComment-3918509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted January 12, 2015 Author Share Posted January 12, 2015 welp guess im gonna pay the 25 points , thats one less biker RPR has to deal with Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301880-the-runic-armor-question/#findComment-3918631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morik Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I would not leave home without it, considering how often I notice Harald or TWC die to a 2. Krakenboner is not as much an offensive powerhouse as he is a tank with strong offensive capabilities. If you wanted an offensive powerhouse, you would take Fist/Claw + re-rolls.As it stands, you are looking at a tanky IC and needs to survive it all and 100% more saves against high AP weapons (S7 spam being the bane of his existance) is very worth the 20pts. what about a TWWL with the black death? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301880-the-runic-armor-question/#findComment-3918764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgr_maddog Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Same, but he could take the Armour of Russ relic that the Krakenbone lord cannot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301880-the-runic-armor-question/#findComment-3918839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morik Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Same, but he could take the Armour of Russ relic that the Krakenbone lord cannot. is that worth the points over runic armour? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301880-the-runic-armor-question/#findComment-3918851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkalleone Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Its situational but if the Enemy has a -5I modifier on his ass and you have a potent weapon to kill him either at higher iniative or through forcing him to your unwieldy one its certainly a big buff. And its always better than paying 40points for TDA Armor if you dont want to deepstrike or be relentness. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301880-the-runic-armor-question/#findComment-3918981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgr_maddog Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Same, but he could take the Armour of Russ relic that the Krakenbone lord cannot. is that worth the points over runic armour? yes, for all of Donkalleone's reasons. The only reason I might not give it to my WL is to give it to a WGBL not taking a storm shield for the 4++ that the WL already gets due to his belt of Russ. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301880-the-runic-armor-question/#findComment-3919918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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