Uprising Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 With the release of IA 13, one of our best units without a doubt is the Chaos Rapier Weapons Battery and the lazer Rapier from the R&H army list. Sadly the Forge world model is $50 dollars for one, and most chaos players will need between 3 to 12 rapier. This thread is to proved ideas for alternative models and counts as. This is not a rule descions, only models. Here are my ideas so far Mantic Forge Fathers Hailstorm Cannon http://gravengames.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/forge-fathers-jotunn-heavy-hailstorm-cannon-11-300x225.jpghttp://gravengames.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/forge-fathers-jotunn-heavy-hailstorm-cannon-15-300x225.jpg For $40 for three(and cheap shipping world wide or free for orders of $75), This is a great bargain for a decent detailed models, on par for gw minis. Its also comes with a squat(chaos squat any one?) and, is the perfect side. All you need is crew, and a dreadnought base. Personally i dislike the barrels, but all those gargoyles heads from the chaos vehicle spruces will be a good chaotic replacement. Another option is to take WHFB ogre kingdoms, and weapons of choice, and make a giant chaos servitor. Prices vary, and this idea could be use for any chaos war beasts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301905-chaos-rapier-alternative-models/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagrath Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I actually use 6 Forgeworld rapiers and 3 of these Mantic guns converted to be the same profile. They are almost identical once you convert them right, except that the Mantic one is barely taller. If you want, I can post pictures for comparison. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301905-chaos-rapier-alternative-models/#findComment-3918413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uprising Posted January 12, 2015 Author Share Posted January 12, 2015 I actually use 6 Forgeworld rapiers and 3 of these Mantic guns converted to be the same profile. They are almost identical once you convert them right, except that the Mantic one is barely taller. If you want, I can post pictures for comparison. yes please, because I plan on buying the mantic version personally. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301905-chaos-rapier-alternative-models/#findComment-3918414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron-Daemon Forge Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I've seen a memeber over on facebook group - The Horus heresy model & painting group, use these for his Heresy era Iron Warriors which look really cool. http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Imperial_Guard/Astra_Militarum_Emplacements/IMPERIAL-QUAD-LAUNCHER-THUDD-GUN.html Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301905-chaos-rapier-alternative-models/#findComment-3918532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brother_contagion Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I've completely forgot about Mantic! I'm gonna be picking up a few of these! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301905-chaos-rapier-alternative-models/#findComment-3918555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctem Cultor Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 They are on my list if I decide to use more Rapiers as the PDC Gun Carriage is no longer available (first post in my blog has pictures with marine crew). On a bonus I'm already plotting on using their Iron Ancestor for a up-to-date Exo Armour Suit for my Squat slaves as a Dread count as (very little work needed). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301905-chaos-rapier-alternative-models/#findComment-3918569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brother_contagion Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 The idea for Chaos Squats sounds awesome! I had a look at their Heat Cannon platform that could be a good count as for the Conversion Beamer or Ectoplasma Cannon. Also it looks like you can make a emplaced weapon with the sprue as well, maybe even a Quad Gun count as? I'll have to get myself some of them too! http://www.manticgames.com/mantic-shop/warpath/vehicles/product/forge-father-surtr-heavy-heat-cannon.html Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301905-chaos-rapier-alternative-models/#findComment-3918619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagrath Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Here are some comparisons with mine. http://i.imgur.com/mPTepI5.jpg http://i.imgur.com/yo6osX7.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301905-chaos-rapier-alternative-models/#findComment-3918696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
40kChrista Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 My buddy just gave me his two FW Rapiers, he never found room in his lists... he's had them for 2+ years. However those Mantic guns look good for the Hades version, the Mantic Suture looks good for the conversion beamer variant but is unfortunately out of stock. These two could be pretty easy to magnetize to switch out as needed. But the Leadbelcher Ogre idea is pretty cool, that really speaks to my conversion bug... hard, one just needs wound markers to represent the crew and your all set. Such a great find guys, and awesome ideas, thanks for sharing! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301905-chaos-rapier-alternative-models/#findComment-3918748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle Discord Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Seeing that my current army build has three Rapiers, I can promise that I will be making a counts-as Chaos Rapier kit for my shop this spring/summer. I doubt my production methods and quality will let me do it as cheaply as 3 for $40, but I'll produce a very high quality kit at the best price I can manage. And mine will be very intentionally Chaos in their appearance, not just passable. It's going to be a busy summer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301905-chaos-rapier-alternative-models/#findComment-3918766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
40kChrista Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 If it has interchangeable weapons... I'll buy 3. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301905-chaos-rapier-alternative-models/#findComment-3918834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle Discord Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Oh, it will, all 3. Hades, Ecto, and Beamer; all will swap out on the same base, all three will be in the kit, and magnets will be included as it will be designed for them. This should be a reasonable build. It's not huge in size and the form is reasonably straight forward. The hardest part will be coming up with just how it will assemble to accommodate mould making and assembly; do it right and you can keep mould lines to a minimum and have the few bubbles that do form hidden away during assembly. I take my model design seriously, on several levels. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301905-chaos-rapier-alternative-models/#findComment-3918953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RolandTHTG Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I bought one of those heat cannon for this very reason, but I'm not buying any more. The Heat cannon is a resin add-on to the hailstorm kit, and the mold is . All the complaints people have about finecast (bubbles, poor modllines, warped pieces, etc) are present in their hard resin. On the pictures on their site, it there is any section that looks like poor painting or bad lightning or picture angle, it isn't. It's a flaw in the mold/model. Unless the out of stock is because they are redoing the mold, I do not recommend purchase. The base Halestorm is fine, as you see in Lagrath's purchases, but not the heat cannon upgrade. Personally, I'm now holding out for Subtle Discord's set. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301905-chaos-rapier-alternative-models/#findComment-3919378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 SD, will they be done for Easter? I got a tournament then... :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301905-chaos-rapier-alternative-models/#findComment-3920151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I bought one of those heat cannon for this very reason, but I'm not buying any more. The Heat cannon is a resin add-on to the hailstorm kit, and the mold is . All the complaints people have about finecast (bubbles, poor modllines, warped pieces, etc) are present in their hard resin. On the pictures on their site, it there is any section that looks like poor painting or bad lightning or picture angle, it isn't. It's a flaw in the mold/model. Unless the out of stock is because they are redoing the mold, I do not recommend purchase. The base Halestorm is fine, as you see in Lagrath's purchases, but not the heat cannon upgrade. Personally, I'm now holding out for Subtle Discord's set. Restic often has these issues, - it's always workable, and you pay for what you get. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301905-chaos-rapier-alternative-models/#findComment-3920154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopkins Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 has anyone done analysis on the various weapon options? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301905-chaos-rapier-alternative-models/#findComment-3920169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggnuggath Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I used a battery of 3 with Hades Autocannons in a game last night. My opponent ignored them (not sure why). Over the course of the game they destroyed a baal pred, 2 razorbacks, a drop pod and a storm raven. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301905-chaos-rapier-alternative-models/#findComment-3920295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I would be curious about the beamers. 24" is an easy range to get, and a large blast S10 AP1...yummy! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301905-chaos-rapier-alternative-models/#findComment-3920383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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