Brother Heinrich Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Is there any new updates on the release order for the next few rulebooks? (also why do the Blood Angels have to be cursed with being seemingly dead last alongside the White Scars? ) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 (also why do the Blood Angels have to be cursed with being seemingly dead last alongside the White Scars? ) The sculptors are going to need as much practice as they can get to do justice to The Khan and Sanguinius and their sons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/#findComment-3918875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athrawes Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Also, for the most part, Forgeworld is trying to be  Chronological about the order of their releases. The Blood Angels and Scars along with the Dark Angels basically didn't have major heresy related engagements until after Istavaan (which was the focus of the first 3 books) Calth is next, with Updated Wordbearers and Ultramarines. Since that followed right after Istavaan.  Next after that is assumed to be Prospero (which technically happened at the same time as istavaan (or slightly before it) but it made more sense to do this book after Istavaan was done because it really requires the battles of istavaan to place it in the setting. After that should be scars (which might even be folded into the Prospero book because of the 2nd battle of Prospero) and the Angels are assumed to be together in a Signus/Thramas Crusade book after that.  Really, the White Scars and Blood Angels haven't been done yet because they didn't really do anything (Forgeworld book) worthy until after Istavaan. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/#findComment-3918880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tymell Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 (also why do the Blood Angels have to be cursed with being seemingly dead last alongside the White Scars? :cry: ) Because someone has to be last, I suppose. BA might not actually be last though: Ultramarines are up next, then the 5 left after that (BA, DA, WS, SW and TS) could be in any order, though SW and TS will be done together in a Prospero book.  Currently, as far as I know, there's no indication of what will come after Book V (which I believe is due mid-2015). Could be Prospero. Could be a second Shadow Crusade book (though I really hope not, I have no interest in seeing that strung out while some legions still need to be done). Could be something else entirely. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/#findComment-3919065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Prospero is more or less guaranteed to be the book after Calth, iirc. Â So, currently, its : WB+UM -> TS+SW+Custodes+SoS -> BA/DA/WS in any order/combination since we don't know anything beyond Prospero. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/#findComment-3919138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Prospero is more or less guaranteed to be the book after Calth, iirc. Â So, currently, its : WB+UM -> TS+SW+Custodes+SoS -> BA/DA/WS in any order/combination since we don't know anything beyond Prospero. that's it .... also, inferno (the prospero book) *may* include prospero spireguard and kaerls aswell as legio astorum (the thousand sons used a legio astorum titan during the battle of prospero) ... but we'll see it ... calth is confirmed as the next book with ultramarines + word beares + maybe daemons and imperial army .... we will see more at the Heresy weekender in february :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/#findComment-3919146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Battle Bunnies predicted Book 5 will be Calth and Book 6 would be an Extermination style round up that includes the Blood Angels. Book 5 will focus on Ultras, Chaos Word Bearers, and second line Imperial Auxilia that doesn't get a model release but can be used to represent loyalists and traitor human non-Solar auxiliaries. Book 6 would cover the Shadow Crusade and Signus with a Daemon list and releases for the Blood Angels. This way they only add a few kits to finish (judging by the Contemptor they are already being worked on) before moving on to Prospero in 2016. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/#findComment-3919147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Battle Bunnies predicted Book 5 will be Calth and Book 6 would be an Extermination style round up that includes the Blood Angels. Book 5 will focus on Ultras, Chaos Word Bearers, and second line Imperial Auxilia that doesn't get a model release but can be used to represent loyalists and traitor human non-Solar auxiliaries. Book 6 would cover the Shadow Crusade and Signus with a Daemon list and releases for the Blood Angels. This way they only add a few kits to finish (judging by the Contemptor they are already being worked on) before moving on to Prospero in 2016. yeah, and forgeworld already said that they want to do some of the "not standard" daemons like the ones in "know no fear" (Samus! We need a big Samus kit :>) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/#findComment-3919150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I've got some non-traditional daemons planned, myself. If the rumors about Fantasy kits being scrapped are true I'll need to grab some before they are gone. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/#findComment-3919155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I've got some non-traditional daemons planned, myself. If the rumors about Fantasy kits being scrapped are true I'll need to grab some before they are gone. i hope they aren't, as i realy want to do some 40k skaven with a vermin lord daemon and glottkin for 40k, aswell as some of the heroes (Karl Franz, Nagash, Archaon ...) for the vitrine >.> Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/#findComment-3919158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Â Battle Bunnies predicted Book 5 will be Calth and Book 6 would be an Extermination style round up that includes the Blood Angels. Book 5 will focus on Ultras, Chaos Word Bearers, and second line Imperial Auxilia that doesn't get a model release but can be used to represent loyalists and traitor human non-Solar auxiliaries. Book 6 would cover the Shadow Crusade and Signus with a Daemon list and releases for the Blood Angels. This way they only add a few kits to finish (judging by the Contemptor they are already being worked on) before moving on to Prospero in 2016. Â yeah, and forgeworld already said that they want to do some of the "not standard" daemons like the ones in "know no fear" :) (Samus! We need a big Samus kit :>) I would love to see a Samus model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/#findComment-3919251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I want to know why we just saw a possessed contemptor when the the Alpha Legion, Iron Warriors and Raven Guard need some work. Unless it's due to the fact the same guys that did all the contemptors have moved on to the next book already seeing as all the contemptors are up to date. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/#findComment-3919256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Heinrich Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 It sucks because according to the timeline that FW/GW created, Signus Prime occurs at the same time as Istvaan III, however battles like Calth, Phall, and the Thramas crusade occurred after Horus had played his hand and the betrayal was revealed. Yet Blood Angels, Space Wolves, and 1k Sons have to practically wait for the last book in the series. Honestly I feel like Imperial Fists should have been bumped back further seeing as their first real engagement was Phall, which occured after Istvaan V. Â Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/#findComment-3919306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 The third trilogy is the end of Horus Heresy Phase One. Phase Two will be more books like Conquest. The only reason we got Conquest when we did was because they were so behind on model releases. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/#findComment-3919392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I'd love to have the battle for terra before my 3 year old hits 18. Thats all i ask. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/#findComment-3919434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I'd love to have the battle for terra before my 3 year old hits 18. Thats all i ask. As cool as that would be, you might see it by the time your 3 year old retires :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/#findComment-3919436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Thirst Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 It sucks because according to the timeline that FW/GW created, Signus Prime occurs at the same time as Istvaan III, however battles like Calth, Phall, and the Thramas crusade occurred after Horus had played his hand and the betrayal was revealed. Yet Blood Angels, Space Wolves, and 1k Sons have to practically wait for the last book in the series. Honestly I feel like Imperial Fists should have been bumped back further seeing as their first real engagement was Phall, which occured after Istvaan V. It does a little... but dont forget that Legions like the Wolves and the Angels (both Dark and Blood) are the most popular of the entire IP. Be patient and be secure in the knowledge that when these books do land they would absolutely knock your MK.IV Maximus boots off Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/#findComment-3919798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Why does everyone assume Calth won't contain the shadow crusade and add world eater items? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/#findComment-3919806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Thirst Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I actually wouldnt be surprised if it did Jasp, Angron is afterall essential to the war in the east, not forgetting his ascension. Come to think of it Daemon Angron would be an awesome surprise. Â Im just not sure the World Eaters could handle / need more units ;) haha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/#findComment-3919822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Well this would finish our armies of if we got triarii actual bezerker and a good RoW. Â I think it's a smart way to increase admech and SA lists introduce the xiiith legion and finish of everything for the WE & WB would be a smart move so they can focus on introducing sisters of silence and customer and another 2 legions in the following books Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/#findComment-3919835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I hope they introduce the Raven Guard Raptors, they are diverse enough imo. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/#findComment-3919836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I wouldn't put much stock in seeing more legion lists until regular Imperial Army, Dark Mechanicum, Custodes, and SoSilence come out. The 1Ksons may get an alternative list as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/#findComment-3919837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I'm hoping that FW start to release Rites of War outside of the main books, in a compilation book, maybe with some relics etc as well. Huge fan of Rites of War and how they allow you to shape your collection, FW should be giving us more of them imo as it can really drive collections Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/#findComment-3919842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitnam Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I wouldn't put much stock in seeing more legion lists until regular Imperial Army, Dark Mechanicum, Custodes, and SoSilence come out. The 1Ksons may get an alternative list as well. I think 1kSons might have the best chance of being a unique legion rules-wise, though I hope they try to keep them in the same Legiones Astartes framwork. Â I wonder how they will handle releases of Imperial Army groups. As I understand it (havent read Conquest yet) Solar Auxilia are kinda like 30k's version of Miltarum Tempestus? Would groups like the Word Bearer cultist auxilia and Prospero Spire Guard fit under the same IA framework? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/#findComment-3919850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I hope the Solar Auxilia can be used with the Standard Imperial Army. I get the feeling the force I'm doing isn't quite Solar Auxilia level on the whole, maybe some elite units at their level but not entirely comprised of them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/#findComment-3919857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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