Emperor's Furor Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 my favourite legion was the Imperial Fists, but I found I couldn't paint yellow Then don't paint them yellow... That was my point, it's why I don't have an Imperial Fists army despite them being my favourite legion. To not paint them yellow defeats the point to me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/page/3/#findComment-3920866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 my favourite legion was the Imperial Fists, but I found I couldn't paint yellow Then don't paint them yellow... That was my point, it's why I don't have an Imperial Fists army despite them being my favourite legion. To not paint them yellow defeats the point to me. You ever try the "White Primer then coat it in Lamenters Yellow" technique of Grotsmasha? It seems to work out quite well and is easy to do. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/page/3/#findComment-3920939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 my favourite legion was the Imperial Fists, but I found I couldn't paint yellow Then don't paint them yellow... That was my point, it's why I don't have an Imperial Fists army despite them being my favourite legion. To not paint them yellow defeats the point to me. You ever try the "White Primer then coat it in Lamenters Yellow" technique of Grotsmasha? It seems to work out quite well and is easy to do. Yeah I really don't work well with white undercoat, but I have tried that is the scheme came out to shiny looking. It doesn't matter any more I've given up on them, I hate how they've simply become Black Templars Legion style anyway, far to dominated by their imagery. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/page/3/#findComment-3920949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 my favourite legion was the Imperial Fists, but I found I couldn't paint yellow Then don't paint them yellow... That was my point, it's why I don't have an Imperial Fists army despite them being my favourite legion. To not paint them yellow defeats the point to me. You ever try the "White Primer then coat it in Lamenters Yellow" technique of Grotsmasha? It seems to work out quite well and is easy to do. Yeah I really don't work well with white undercoat, but I have tried that is the scheme came out to shiny looking. It doesn't matter any more I've given up on them, I hate how they've simply become Black Templars Legion style anyway, far to dominated by their imagery. Because the Imperial Fists legion was filled to the brim with personality and imagery before... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/page/3/#findComment-3920955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 While I get where you're coming from to an extent, its not like you couldn't just ignore the "Blinged up" version of the Fists and make them look the way you want to. But hey, if you're happy with the Legion you've chosen afterwards, who am I to complain. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/page/3/#findComment-3920960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 my favourite legion was the Imperial Fists, but I found I couldn't paint yellow Then don't paint them yellow... That was my point, it's why I don't have an Imperial Fists army despite them being my favourite legion. To not paint them yellow defeats the point to me.You ever try the "White Primer then coat it in Lamenters Yellow" technique of Grotsmasha? It seems to work out quite well and is easy to do.Yeah I really don't work well with white undercoat, but I have tried that is the scheme came out to shiny looking. It doesn't matter any more I've given up on them, I hate how they've simply become Black Templars Legion style anyway, far to dominated by their imagery. Because the Imperial Fists legion was filled to the brim with personality and imagery before... That's the problem, they've taken the easy way out and made them the Black Templars of 30k. I liked the story of the company that was drawn from the "lost" zone on the edge of the solar system who have tattoos and their emblem in a constellation of stars. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/page/3/#findComment-3920974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 my favourite legion was the Imperial Fists, but I found I couldn't paint yellow Then don't paint them yellow... That was my point, it's why I don't have an Imperial Fists army despite them being my favourite legion. To not paint them yellow defeats the point to me.You ever try the "White Primer then coat it in Lamenters Yellow" technique of Grotsmasha? It seems to work out quite well and is easy to do.Yeah I really don't work well with white undercoat, but I have tried that is the scheme came out to shiny looking. It doesn't matter any more I've given up on them, I hate how they've simply become Black Templars Legion style anyway, far to dominated by their imagery. Because the Imperial Fists legion was filled to the brim with personality and imagery before... That's the problem, they've taken the easy way out and made them the Black Templars of 30k. I liked the story of the company that was drawn from the "lost" zone on the edge of the solar system who have tattoos and their emblem in a constellation of stars. The Driftborn. Not to mention the majority of the imagery so far has been the twin Axes of Fafnir Rann's Warders. The black armor comes from the 'black=veteran' not 'black=templar'. Sigismund and all the Templars in the literature have worn golden armor so far. The only Templars seen in Black Armor are the ones put out by FW two weeks ago, and they are just colored in the reverse scheme of Legion veterans. The FW incorporation of black has largely been aesthetic. Solid colors on vehicles, like the GW studio models, is simplistic. The alternative colors are more representative of the way heraldry is used. By having large portions of vehicles be black and white, the color palette of the Fists is expanded. Hardly a bad thing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/page/3/#findComment-3920980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 my favourite legion was the Imperial Fists, but I found I couldn't paint yellow Then don't paint them yellow... That was my point, it's why I don't have an Imperial Fists army despite them being my favourite legion. To not paint them yellow defeats the point to me.You ever try the "White Primer then coat it in Lamenters Yellow" technique of Grotsmasha? It seems to work out quite well and is easy to do.Yeah I really don't work well with white undercoat, but I have tried that is the scheme came out to shiny looking. It doesn't matter any more I've given up on them, I hate how they've simply become Black Templars Legion style anyway, far to dominated by their imagery. Because the Imperial Fists legion was filled to the brim with personality and imagery before... That's the problem, they've taken the easy way out and made them the Black Templars of 30k. I liked the story of the company that was drawn from the "lost" zone on the edge of the solar system who have tattoos and their emblem in a constellation of stars. Source on that 'cuz that sounds amazing Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/page/3/#findComment-3920981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Its the 356th Company. The Driftborn. Its in Extermination. Specialist Void Fighters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/page/3/#findComment-3920984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 my favourite legion was the Imperial Fists, but I found I couldn't paint yellow Then don't paint them yellow... That was my point, it's why I don't have an Imperial Fists army despite them being my favourite legion. To not paint them yellow defeats the point to me.You ever try the "White Primer then coat it in Lamenters Yellow" technique of Grotsmasha? It seems to work out quite well and is easy to do.Yeah I really don't work well with white undercoat, but I have tried that is the scheme came out to shiny looking. It doesn't matter any more I've given up on them, I hate how they've simply become Black Templars Legion style anyway, far to dominated by their imagery. Because the Imperial Fists legion was filled to the brim with personality and imagery before... That's the problem, they've taken the easy way out and made them the Black Templars of 30k. I liked the story of the company that was drawn from the "lost" zone on the edge of the solar system who have tattoos and their emblem in a constellation of stars. Source on that 'cuz that sounds amazing From the third book, it's one of the little boxes in the Imperial Fist article that chronicles how they form some companies from specific locations. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/page/3/#findComment-3920985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 @_@ How do I not remember that? I went through the Imperial Fists stuff in detail.. TO THE PAIN GLOVE! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/page/3/#findComment-3920986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackoption Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 The templar symbol was just one symbol used by veterans of the Fists. The executioner's pair axes are an example of a specific company within the legion. A common theme in FW works have been that 40K chapter symbols had their start as company heraldry in the legions. If you do not want 30 Fists with templar motifs, have them with the fist and celestial lion motif or Crimson Fist motif for the warriors under Pollox. Heck, you could incorporate your own IF successor has the company heraldry for you legion. The Black color is mainly used as a sign of veterancy or for assault formations if I remember correctly. FW art not only provides examples of what was common, but also gives a range of acceptable variance. They had IF with mostly Grey armor (and only Yellow Pauldrons) in one of the examples. Use what you like and expand on it. Who knows, perhaps your take on an IF company garners enough attention that it is used as an example of what right looks like. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/page/3/#findComment-3920987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBA Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 my favourite legion was the Imperial Fists, but I found I couldn't paint yellow Then don't paint them yellow... That was my point, it's why I don't have an Imperial Fists army despite them being my favourite legion. To not paint them yellow defeats the point to me.You ever try the "White Primer then coat it in Lamenters Yellow" technique of Grotsmasha? It seems to work out quite well and is easy to do.Yeah I really don't work well with white undercoat, but I have tried that is the scheme came out to shiny looking. It doesn't matter any more I've given up on them, I hate how they've simply become Black Templars Legion style anyway, far to dominated by their imagery. Because the Imperial Fists legion was filled to the brim with personality and imagery before... That's the problem, they've taken the easy way out and made them the Black Templars of 30k. I liked the story of the company that was drawn from the "lost" zone on the edge of the solar system who have tattoos and their emblem in a constellation of stars. I feel your pain. The Raven Guard of FW got dealt the Space Shark card and Polynesian tribal stuff now covers the sculpt of the first heresy-era RG product (But hey, some love it. I think it's easter-egg-ism that got out of hand from Forge World Space Shark fans). The thing is, it's unbelievably easy to gravitate as far away from the Forge World stuff as you want in the Heresy. It's wide open. If I can take the numbers depleted, twice bastardized Raven Guard -- the re-forming at the hands of Gav Thorpe, and then the aforementioned Space Shark trope -- and spin my own original yarns that don't involve any of that, then Imperial Fists should be a cake-walk Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/page/3/#findComment-3921070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 The Forge World VIII Legion stuff really is not overrun with the Templar thing and the only thing holding you back from making the Fists the way you want them is the walls you're putting up yourself. That being said, let's get this back on the original topic of the future book releases. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/page/3/#findComment-3921117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I mean, Beyond the Siege of Terra, I can see them Easily doing a Scouring and Opening the floodgates even more in terms of accessibility since GW plastic kits will be fluffy at that point. ...it just means No More Legions at some point... After that I think its just back to things like the Badab Books and the like. OR THEY COULD DO THE DARK AGE OF TECHNOLOGY :OOOOO ...yeah that ain't gunna happen... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/page/3/#findComment-3921119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I mean, Beyond the Siege of Terra, I can see them Easily doing a Scouring and Opening the floodgates even more in terms of accessibility since GW plastic kits will be fluffy at that point. ...it just means No More Legions at some point... After that I think its just back to things like the Badab Books and the like. OR THEY COULD DO THE DARK AGE OF TECHNOLOGY :OOOOO ...yeah that ain't gunna happen... Sweet mother... Think of the children! Think of the children!!! Waaaaa... I've already sold so many to feed my resin habit... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/page/3/#findComment-3921129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBA Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 After Forge World is done with the Horus Heresy, I'd love for them (or GW proper if they're willing) to advance the 40,000 storyline. The End Times are proving pretty exciting for the fantasy people, and I think a shake up for he 41st millennia is long overdue. Mark IX armor? Returning of the Primarchs? Some exciting stories to tell there. GW has already done a fair bit of retconning some of the previous fluff. If you're going to get wet... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/page/3/#findComment-3921130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 After Forge World is done with the Horus Heresy, I'd love for them (or GW proper if they're willing) to advance the 40,000 storyline. The End Times are proving pretty exciting for the fantasy people, and I think a shake up for he 41st millennia is long overdue. Mark IX armor? Returning of the Primarchs? Some exciting stories to tell there. GW has already done a fair bit of retconning some of the previous fluff. If you're going to get wet... Heh. I was going to mention something about spherical masculine objects and going deep but restrained myself :P I'd love to see the scouring. Legions still intact but fighting towards the eye and reforming. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/page/3/#findComment-3921134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Me and Hyaenidae, and certainly lots of others, would love to see FW turn the clock back a bit more to the Unification Wars and the early years of the Great Crusade. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/page/3/#findComment-3921136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Me and Hyaenidae, and certainly lots of others, would love to see FW turn the clock back a bit more to the Unification Wars and the early years of the Great Crusade. Yeah, it would definitely be cool; though any legion participation will probably be very grey :p I'm also on the fence on how I'd feel about Thunderwarriors and Mk I Power Armor... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/page/3/#findComment-3921137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
karden00 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Do we have any idea on a date...even a ballpark for the Calth book? Has anything been leaked since the images of UM torsos and shields and WB spikey armour? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/page/3/#findComment-3921173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Heinrich Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 God nothing would infuriate me more than to see FW do Calth part I, then immediately follow it with more Word Bearers v Ultramarine shadow crusade BS. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/page/3/#findComment-3921204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 How bout just one book for Calth introducing the ultras new units for mech auxillia and WB followed by cultists as a new army and dark mech then the next book expanding on the 3 new armies and WE plus mor campaigns and agents of the imperium? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/page/3/#findComment-3921213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Heinrich Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 I'd be okay with that, I just hate the idea that in 3 books we would only see one new legion ruleset released. That would infuriate not only BA, DA, WS players, but Wolves and 1k sons as well. I mean thats five freaking legions with no rules for another two books? I don't think they'd do it, but God I'm nothing if not skeptical when it comes to these companies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/page/3/#findComment-3921222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Well so far fw have delivered the goods I like with book 4 expanding on the SoH and DG I hope they continue the trend Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/301935-any-new-info-on-the-book-order/page/3/#findComment-3921230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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