jeremy1391 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Vigilator 95 Apothecarion Detachment • Legion Apothecary: Augury Scanner 50 • Legion Apothecary: Augury Scanner 50 • Legion Apothecary 45 9 Legionnaires: 9× Additional Combat Blade or Chainsword; Legion Vexilla; Legion Tactical Sergeant (Artificer Armour; Power Fist; Additional Combat Blade or Chainsword) 205 • Legion Rhino Armoured Carrier 35 9 Legionnaires: Legion Vexilla; Legion Tactical Sergeant (Power Sword) 170 • Legion Rhino Armoured Carrier 35 9 Legionnaires: 9× Additional Combat Blade or Chainsword; Legion Vexilla; Legion Tactical Sergeant (Artificer Armour; Power Fist; Additional Combat Blade or Chainsword) 205 • Legion Rhino Armoured Carrier 35 9 Legionnaires: 9× Additional Combat Blade or Chainsword; Legion Vexilla; Legion Tactical Sergeant (Artificer Armour; Power Fist; Additional Combat Blade or Chainsword) 205 • Legion Rhino Armoured Carrier 35 3 Attack Bikers: Space Marine Bike (Multi-melta) 150 9 Heavy Legionnaires: Missile Launcher; Legion Space Marine Sergeant (Missile Launcher) 285 9 Heavy Legionnaires: Missile Launcher; Legion Space Marine Sergeant (Missile Launcher) 285 Legion Whirlwind Scorpius 115 2,000 points The concept is simple shoot the crap out of everything! AV14 spam and flyers may be an issue but saturation of fire coupled with tank hunter should alleviate the problem. What do you think? I may swap the 3 man attack bike squad with multi meltas for two speeders with multi melta and graviton gun. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302028-2000-point-imperial-fist-firepower/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millicant Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 What's the 5x additional combat blade/chainsword about? The whole squad has to take the upgrade, I think. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302028-2000-point-imperial-fist-firepower/#findComment-3920625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted January 14, 2015 Author Share Posted January 14, 2015 Eek it appears you are right. Wait one gotta adjust Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302028-2000-point-imperial-fist-firepower/#findComment-3920628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Who are the Apothecaries joining? Because your Tac Squads are 10 men base - 11 with the Apothecary and thus cannot fit in a Rhino... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302028-2000-point-imperial-fist-firepower/#findComment-3920738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted January 14, 2015 Author Share Posted January 14, 2015 Heavy support squads and the tactical support squads Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302028-2000-point-imperial-fist-firepower/#findComment-3920761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I don't see the Tac Support Squads... As for giving your backfield fire-support unit apothecaries...thats debatable since the sarge can take Augury Scanners so its redundant/worthless for the apothecary to take it. If you gave them heavy flamers and were using them very aggressively, then sure. But sitting in the back shooting at stuff kinda makes FNP worthless when they wont really be getting shot at and what will might bypass it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302028-2000-point-imperial-fist-firepower/#findComment-3920766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted January 14, 2015 Author Share Posted January 14, 2015 Option two is as follows I feel it has more potential. Still mobile and has a nasty offensive punch in the form of a Templar star. Still has a decent number of bodies and still has a large amount of firepower! Sigismund 230 Primus Medicae 85 7 Templars: Melta bombs; + 1 Chapter Champion (Thunder hammer; Combat Shield) 290 • Legion Land Raider Phobos: Armoured Ceramite 270 9 Legionnaires: Nuncio-Vox; Legion Vexilla; Legion Tactical Sergeant (Artificer Armour; Power Fist) 195 • Legion Rhino Armoured Carrier 35 9 Legionnaires: Legion Vexilla; Legion Tactical Sergeant (Artificer Armour; Power Fist) 185 • Legion Rhino Armoured Carrier 35 9 Legionnaires: Legion Vexilla; Legion Tactical Sergeant (Melta Bombs) 165 • Legion Rhino Armoured Carrier 35 Legion Predator Strike Armour Squadron • Legion Predator Tank: Two Lascannon Sponsons 115 • Legion Predator Tank: Two Lascannon Sponsons 115 Legion Predator Strike Armour Squadron • Legion Predator Tank: Executioner Plasma Destroyer; Two Heavy Bolter Sponsons 130 Legion Whirlwind Scorpius 115 2,000 points Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302028-2000-point-imperial-fist-firepower/#findComment-3920767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted January 14, 2015 Author Share Posted January 14, 2015 Option two also has the benefit that I can field it at this instant! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302028-2000-point-imperial-fist-firepower/#findComment-3920776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I like it more since you have more reliable CC killyness (terminators might still cause Trouble) and a good amount of Anti-Armor - Missile Launchers against Land Raiders aren't all that effective... The only downside is you have to aim all your predators at the same Target. Maybe if you split the squadron up - just take the Executionner out and give it its own slot, you could still deploy them like a Squadron but have the added benefit of not having to shoot at the same Target. Unless theres something that gives Split Fire? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302028-2000-point-imperial-fist-firepower/#findComment-3920787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted January 14, 2015 Author Share Posted January 14, 2015 I've edited the option two list to denote that the predators are in two squadrons. The executioner by himself and the ac/las preds as a squad. Also spread out the unit listing so it's easier to read and follow. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302028-2000-point-imperial-fist-firepower/#findComment-3920794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted January 14, 2015 Author Share Posted January 14, 2015 I may also swap out the thunder hammer on the chapter champion for a solar it's power gauntlet since it isn't a specialist weapon.... And ap1 will make it better at punching tanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302028-2000-point-imperial-fist-firepower/#findComment-3920807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I mean, as an Imperial Fist why Wouldn't you take the Solarite Power Gauntlet :p I literally stuffed one on as many units that could take it in my list; most notably my Primus Medcae's and my Templar Champion. Only other thing I'd consider is maybe cutting one tac squad for a Mortis / Contemptor-Mortis Dread for Anti-Air. Beyond that I'm happy enough with the list. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302028-2000-point-imperial-fist-firepower/#findComment-3920954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 I will hopefully be getting a contemptor Mortis soon so it may find its way into the list :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302028-2000-point-imperial-fist-firepower/#findComment-3921020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caustic63 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Even with the Imperial Fists bonus to Bolter accuracy, running Marine spam is a poor strategy because you will find there are a great many foes that Tactical Marines are unable to properly counter. Mechanized Tacticals are imo a lot weaker in 30K then in 40K because you lose the ability to take more models (which are really cheap), an Apothecary, and make use of Fury of the Legion since you have to move to get out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302028-2000-point-imperial-fist-firepower/#findComment-3921140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drippy Waffler Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 A couple volkite culverin squads could mince those tac squads, even after your scorpius knocks a couple off the board. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302028-2000-point-imperial-fist-firepower/#findComment-3921247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 They may lose some firepower and bodies but mobility is king in 7th. I'll try running with all foot sluggers for more bodies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302028-2000-point-imperial-fist-firepower/#findComment-3921553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aries24 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 hmm, its not really a lot of fire power, unless you are aiming to try and get fury off, but that would be hard considering your in rhinos. if it were me I would cut down on the marines in rhinos, join the units together (potentially make them breachers) and invest in some rapier batteries, vindicators and contemptors maybe. but just guys in rhinos I would think would go to far (super easy to blow them up and let the guys walk into the jaws of hell) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302028-2000-point-imperial-fist-firepower/#findComment-3921753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 They may lose some firepower and bodies but mobility is king in 7th. I'll try running with all foot sluggers for more bodies. No, shooting is king in 7th, followed shortly by being able to take last turn objectives. AV11 3HP vehicles are free kill points in a meta revolving around killing AV15-16 5HP vehicle equivalents and T5 2+/4++ models. Mobility is needed, but you also need to be able to kill stuff to ensure that you can get the mobile scoring unit where it needs to be. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302028-2000-point-imperial-fist-firepower/#findComment-3922200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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