CommandPoint Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I've started listening through some of the 40k / Horus Heresy audiobooks and have often found myself confused as to who is who, or more importantly ~ remembering who is who. Is anyone aware of a reference picture detailing each of the Primarks, their Legion number, Chapter, name, picture / description etc? Sort of like a help sheet that I print off or have saved on my phone to easily look at as I read the stories. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302072-request-reference-picture-feat-the-primarks-legions-etc/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaz431 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 The official 40k wiki has that info. http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Warhammer_40k_Wiki Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302072-request-reference-picture-feat-the-primarks-legions-etc/#findComment-3921659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucien Eilam Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 That is not official. And full of borderline fan fiction. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302072-request-reference-picture-feat-the-primarks-legions-etc/#findComment-3921665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 That is not official. And full of borderline fan fiction. It's actually been cleaned up a lot and it's quite well sourced now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302072-request-reference-picture-feat-the-primarks-legions-etc/#findComment-3921672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Space_Marine_Legion Scroll down to "Original Name and Appearances" Links to each individual Page will usually greet you with an image of their current incarnation but further down the articles you should find their 30k Art. Same deal with the Primarchs all of their articles should have an Illustration of them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302072-request-reference-picture-feat-the-primarks-legions-etc/#findComment-3921673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Space_Marine_Legion Scroll down to "Original Name and Appearances" Links to each individual Page will usually greet you with an image of their current incarnation but further down the articles you should find their 30k Art. Same deal with the Primarchs all of their articles should have an Illustration of them. and lexicanum isn't up-to date ... i prefere the 40k wiki over lexicanum (also, lexicanums community isn't the nicest ;>) ... also, all of the artwork in the 40k wiki is official now ... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302072-request-reference-picture-feat-the-primarks-legions-etc/#findComment-3921676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Or we could use 1d4chan for a splash of Comedy... http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Primarch Note: Harsh Language and "Internet Speak" is aplenty as is semi-factual information used for the purposes of "Teh Lulz". You have been warned :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302072-request-reference-picture-feat-the-primarks-legions-etc/#findComment-3921690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 That is not official. And full of borderline fan fiction. It's actually been cleaned up a lot and it's quite well sourced now. Many of their in-depth pages aren't well sourced, they're just typed out from the FW books, especially pages on the battles from Betrayal/Massacre/Extermination etc. I don't think a site like that should be supported. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302072-request-reference-picture-feat-the-primarks-legions-etc/#findComment-3921707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 A typical initiation requires all Primarchs and Legions to be memorized and recited while a match burns down. You can't let go of the match until you've finished in order :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302072-request-reference-picture-feat-the-primarks-legions-etc/#findComment-3921708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 We used to be quizzed at my local GW when I was young, I remember getting all the Primarchs and their home planets right, couldn't do it nowadays I think, my memory sucks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302072-request-reference-picture-feat-the-primarks-legions-etc/#findComment-3921718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparika Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I could do the legions and the primarch. In correct order would be too difficult for a single match, but with also the planets! Respect. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302072-request-reference-picture-feat-the-primarks-legions-etc/#findComment-3921977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 I've practically memorized the basics on the Primarchs. Yay, hours of research to make my own primarch. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302072-request-reference-picture-feat-the-primarks-legions-etc/#findComment-3922208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 A typical initiation requires all Primarchs and Legions to be memorized and recited while a match burns down. You can't let go of the match until you've finished in order :D Dang it! I always get stuck at number two...I can never remember his name or legion... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302072-request-reference-picture-feat-the-primarks-legions-etc/#findComment-3922221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 A typical initiation requires all Primarchs and Legions to be memorized and recited while a match burns down. You can't let go of the match until you've finished in order Dang it! I always get stuck at number two...I can never remember his name or legion... Ha ha ha ha! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302072-request-reference-picture-feat-the-primarks-legions-etc/#findComment-3922229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 It might be why I play 1st legion ^_^ that was as high as I could count! One! One legion!!! Ah ah ah Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302072-request-reference-picture-feat-the-primarks-legions-etc/#findComment-3922248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareddm Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Well between Caliban, Colchis, Chogoris, Chemos, and Cthonia, my girlfriend's been having a hell of a time trying to keep the legions, primarchs, and homeworlds straight as she reads through the HH. Having them referenced by their legion number isn't helping. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302072-request-reference-picture-feat-the-primarks-legions-etc/#findComment-3922258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Well between Caliban, Colchis, Chogoris, Chemos, and Cthonia, my girlfriend's been having a hell of a time trying to keep the legions, primarchs, and homeworlds straight as she reads through the HH. Having them referenced by their legion number isn't helping.:P Today's Heresy Broadcast was brought to you by the letter C and the number 8..... BECAUSE BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302072-request-reference-picture-feat-the-primarks-legions-etc/#findComment-3922263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 I took it three steps further and added the flagship, cognomens, and known Terran mustering grounds to the list, including those of my II and XI. But I couldn't remember something as simple as my own phone number. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302072-request-reference-picture-feat-the-primarks-legions-etc/#findComment-3922982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 First person to give me home world of the XXth legion gets a cookie. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302072-request-reference-picture-feat-the-primarks-legions-etc/#findComment-3923033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 XX Legion you said? Terra, as with all nameless Legions. (How's that arguing semantics?) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302072-request-reference-picture-feat-the-primarks-legions-etc/#findComment-3923052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Lol, think you get a cookie for that reasoning! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302072-request-reference-picture-feat-the-primarks-legions-etc/#findComment-3923057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 I've started listening through some of the 40k / Horus Heresy audiobooks and have often found myself confused as to who is who, or more importantly ~ remembering who is who. Is anyone aware of a reference picture detailing each of the Primarks, their Legion number, Chapter, name, picture / description etc? Sort of like a help sheet that I print off or have saved on my phone to easily look at as I read the stories. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Honestly? The easiest, cheapest and quickest way to look at whatever character you need a visual of would be to use Lexicanum.com, type in the name of the Primarch/ character you want to see in the search bar, and 80% of the time, there will be a piece of art. If Lexi doesn't have it, then just Google it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302072-request-reference-picture-feat-the-primarks-legions-etc/#findComment-3924038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petitioner's City Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 That is not official. And full of borderline fan fiction. It's actually been cleaned up a lot and it's quite well sourced now. Many of their in-depth pages aren't well sourced, they're just typed out from the FW books, especially pages on the battles from Betrayal/Massacre/Extermination etc. I don't think a site like that should be supported. This is something which worries me with it. It's often plagiarism of codexes, BL books and FW texts, with no attempt to discern between the texts that might be glued together into an article and summarise instead. I fail my students for this, shouldn't we hold the writers of a wiki to a high standard too? Quotation marks are certainly acceptable :) I do write on it from time to time, but the length of articles and the resort to plagiarism worry me. (I also write for Memory Beta, the trek licensed products wiki, and wikipedia itself on occasion) The lack of discernment obviously reflects conflicting narratives and ideas found in various GW publications dating back to the late 80s, but rather than presenting that information as stemming from multiple publication sources and acknowledging these in-article, it takes on a deeply flawed omniscient perspective (i.e. often that of the third person narrator of a BL book) Yet it is also one that also assumes the persona of an imperial functionary. It's bizarre at its worst instances, since really, condensing but essentially repeating large sections of various novels (such as the final fight and elevation of Angel Exterminatus to name one) really makes for a cogent article. It also stops articles from being analytic or investigative sometimes. I'm a historian, anything I write that isn't pure description will be analytic. I wonder if the admins adopted a more plagiaristic approach to avoid any fanon analysis? But using evidence and presenting ideas in a cohesive whole - that's part of an encyclopedia's role - to sift and discern. As an example I wish the legion and the chapter articles were far shorter and separated. It just seems highly flawed to me to assume that they are one and the same thing, across 10000 years! The worst offender is the Black Legion, which includes the Sons of Horus article. Finally, a distinct lack of dates makes the wiki deeply problematic too, since it often writes everything from a present tense, as though everything is happening at one and the same time. Whenever I edit an article this is my first aim - a date - since this is the core of historical process. However, there is a lot of good on the wiki too - it's an acceptable resource, and its admins do put a lot of effort into it. They are always civil and take care to listen (unlike other wikia site admins). I wouldn't say it's a super-open wiki - there are lots of rules to the wiki, some unspoken. Also it doesn't have the ambition for everything in 40k-dom to have its own page (with dates!), perhaps because there aren't that many writers - which is what I'd hope for in a 'pseudo-historical' encyclopaedia - but I'd say it's perfectly acceptable for the OP's need for images. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302072-request-reference-picture-feat-the-primarks-legions-etc/#findComment-3924090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Perhaps, eschewing this growing off-topic discussion of wikis and their validity, it would be a good idea for someone to make a resource like this here on B&C? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302072-request-reference-picture-feat-the-primarks-legions-etc/#findComment-3924100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petitioner's City Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 ^^ You mean like a sub-forum? A B&C wiki? (also classic Necromunda Redemptionist pic?) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302072-request-reference-picture-feat-the-primarks-legions-etc/#findComment-3924170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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