Helias_Tancred Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Hail brothers, Building my first Stormraven and I want to change up how it looks, specifically the cockpit glass. Personally I don't like how it comes in the box, it looks cheap and sorta chinsy on the model. Its the 41st millenium and you're telling me they don't have any cool protective coatings for the glass, etc? Plus tons of electronic cameras and virtual HUDs? Anyways I'm either going to go blue or green? I'm also toying with the idea of painting the top panel of the glass so the pilots cockpit canopy glass is a longer slimmer panel in front. Saw a couple pics online of others who did this and it looks sweet, and more predatorial. So has anyone made their stormraven canopy opaque before? Anything I need to look out for before I do it. ps. and I don't have to build the Techmarine pilot, paint him, nor Bob The Servitor either. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302181-stormraven-cockpit-canopy-glass/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
awilden Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Another option is to have it semi-opaque, no idea if this is a thing for models, but i wonder if you can get film to put over the plastic, as in like car windows have tint, that'd look cool. Have it like a deep black or blue tint, it would mean you'd have to paint the interior but i reckon it'd look cool. It makes perfect sense fluff wise too, i mean you think of astronauts how they have coloured glass to protect from the uv rays, and the stormraven cockpit would need to protect the pilot inside (i guess its not 100% necessary if his helmet protects him, but whatever lol). I mean i get the clear 'transparent aluminium' thing and how the windows can be clear and still be super strong, but a tint would look nice too. Personally i never really liked the painted windows on flyers that have actual windows with stuff behind (not like the fake plastic windows like say a Rhino has under the visor, that you just have to paint blue). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302181-stormraven-cockpit-canopy-glass/#findComment-3924407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
appiah4 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 You may want to give Tamiya tints a go. Here's a good application: http://stalkingamongshadows.blogspot.com.tr/2013/04/storm-talon-wip.html http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-EhR_JH6601k/UWy2gKG5dqI/AAAAAAAAB0A/gggpKegl3v0/s1600/IMG_1536.JPG Alternatively, this was featured on B&C and I like the idea though I'm not a fan of the execution (no offense..) http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269229-yet-another-storm-talon-mod-finally-finished-23-4-13/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302181-stormraven-cockpit-canopy-glass/#findComment-3925586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awilden Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Looks really interesting, although i have seen a few threads elsewhere about people talking about how difficult it is to do properly, i wouldn't want to accidentally screw up my windows for the stormraven, i couldn't see a set on ebay but I'd imagine it'd be a good amount to replace. Although to be fair anything to do with the windows would be risky, I've seen the both jobs done with actual car window tint, I'd imagine on a smaller scale it could turn out worse :-S I have to say the targeting HUD looks cool but would look better if somehow it could be transparent, that would be a good task for an entrepreneur to make little transparent HUD for 40k flyers, make little transparent stick on decals (or even water decals, just bigger and transparent). As for the actual question of the thread about painting windows, i would assume you could just prime+paint it like normal, I'd probably paint it separate then glue it in after (with pva glue, or something that wouldn't fog the paint work, that's the one thing you'd probably have to worry about, if your not gluing it all together at once, then painting it, glue you use fogging the paint, if you leave it clear or tint it etc. that's even more important, they actually make special canopy glue to stop it fogging the glass. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302181-stormraven-cockpit-canopy-glass/#findComment-3925711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Newton Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I may have to try that targeting HUD. It looks cool. For transparent tho I think I myhave to use the bright green paint to make the lines but then also use it to make the edge of the HUD so there is a line around the edge. Then tamiya clear in the outlined area. The edge of paint should hopefully keep it in place instead of all over the canopy. Also I'm not sure if it's this thread or not but someone posted the tamiya clear came off their cockpit glass within half an hour in simple green. If it gets out of where it should be a Qtip to catch it and a thin stipic ( like to stop blood when you nick yourself shaving) with a little simple green might take care of any problems without having to redo everything. If you can get it to balance so that any excess will run to the corner and then paint the outside lines between the glass pieces this could cover up a slightly darker area where the paint gathered. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302181-stormraven-cockpit-canopy-glass/#findComment-3925723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Looks really interesting, although i have seen a few threads elsewhere about people talking about how difficult it is to do properly, i wouldn't want to accidentally screw up my windows for the stormraven, i couldn't see a set on ebay but I'd imagine it'd be a good amount to replace. Although to be fair anything to do with the windows would be risky, I've seen the both jobs done with actual car window tint, I'd imagine on a smaller scale it could turn out worse :-SI recently saw this. So even if you screw up, you will probably find a replacement. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302181-stormraven-cockpit-canopy-glass/#findComment-3925824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Ohh, that tactical HUD is clever. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302181-stormraven-cockpit-canopy-glass/#findComment-3925963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awilden Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Looks really interesting, although i have seen a few threads elsewhere about people talking about how difficult it is to do properly, i wouldn't want to accidentally screw up my windows for the stormraven, i couldn't see a set on ebay but I'd imagine it'd be a good amount to replace. Although to be fair anything to do with the windows would be risky, I've seen the both jobs done with actual car window tint, I'd imagine on a smaller scale it could turn out worse :-SI recently saw this. So even if you screw up, you will probably find a replacement. Is this site any good? only really used ebay for bitz so far (and living in Aus so it'd be international shipping I'm guessing). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302181-stormraven-cockpit-canopy-glass/#findComment-3926390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
appiah4 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Looks really interesting, although i have seen a few threads elsewhere about people talking about how difficult it is to do properly, i wouldn't want to accidentally screw up my windows for the stormraven, i couldn't see a set on ebay but I'd imagine it'd be a good amount to replace. Although to be fair anything to do with the windows would be risky, I've seen the both jobs done with actual car window tint, I'd imagine on a smaller scale it could turn out worse :-SI recently saw this. So even if you screw up, you will probably find a replacement. Is this site any good? only really used ebay for bitz so far (and living in Aus so it'd be international shipping I'm guessing). Bitzbox is one of the more premium bitz sites, they usually slightly overcharge but have great communication and service. I've used them quite a lot, they are my second favorite next to bitsandkits. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302181-stormraven-cockpit-canopy-glass/#findComment-3926399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishFuzz99 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I airbrushed the inside of my cockpit window black so it just looks like a very tinted windscreen. I thought that was more realistic than a clear one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302181-stormraven-cockpit-canopy-glass/#findComment-3926400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Is this site any good? only really used ebay for bitz so far (and living in Aus so it'd be international shipping I'm guessing).I had good experiences with them. Also international shipping is a flat 3.99 GBP so it shouldn't be so bad. you might want to combine the glass with some other bits to save on shipping. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302181-stormraven-cockpit-canopy-glass/#findComment-3926406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damo1701 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 What about using the transparent glass paints, like for painting the stained glass sun catchers etc? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302181-stormraven-cockpit-canopy-glass/#findComment-3928884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadGreek Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I used a transparent blue glass paint on the inside of my canopies. I think it looks pretty good - but it is difficult to do since you can't "prime" them or anything. Had to do one pane at a time, let it dry, and then move on to the next one. Benefit, you can see inside a bit, but don't really have to paint the inside since it is all tinted blue anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302181-stormraven-cockpit-canopy-glass/#findComment-3929585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaedes Nex Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Ohh, that tactical HUD is clever. Yeah, it is. I think one way to fix the execution that appiah5 was talking about was to just paint the green screen information on the cockpit, since IRL jets have a clear HUD that just shows green floating stuff I think. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302181-stormraven-cockpit-canopy-glass/#findComment-3930119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I dunno. I think green squiggles without the deep-nearly-black-green screen wouldn't really register its intent, design wise. Or I could be misunderstanding your suggestion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302181-stormraven-cockpit-canopy-glass/#findComment-3930243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaedes Nex Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 http://www.gamereplays.org/community/uploads/post-91942-1313514158.jpg Sort of like this? When I imagine fighter cockpits the information is projected on a piece of glass so it looks like green markings floating on nothing. This is how projected stuff is for car windshields too. But in real life, the glass the stuff is projected onto does have a slight tint. Just the green markings would look cool and a lot cleaner, IMO, but either way is valid. The black background for the info would be more fitting for 40k though, since all the video games and stuff show that they use old school black CRT monitors for everything, so a clean, invisible green HUD would be too modern for 40k. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302181-stormraven-cockpit-canopy-glass/#findComment-3930267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 On the other hand there are hololiths which I assume is some kind of holographic projector. Correct me I I'm wrong. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302181-stormraven-cockpit-canopy-glass/#findComment-3930296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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