Helias_Tancred Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Building my first Stormraven. Its time to do the weapons. I'm running hurricane bolter sponsons. So with that out of the way I thought the other choices were a no-brainer, multi-melta in the nose, and a lascannon in the servitor turret (and of course the 4 missiles). But now my mind is wandering ..... hmmmm plasma cannons in the servitor turret, lacks range of the lascannon but hits nearly as hard and has blast. Could take out armored vehicles, enemy air, AND hammer infantry? Then I started thinking that if I'm running a lascannon or plasma cannon up top then m-a-y-b-e heavy bolters in the nose for more attacks and chewing up infantry and lighter armored vehicles on the ground and it has range and # attacks on the multi-melta. I thought this was going to be easy but ... I was wrong. Veterans can you help me out? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyuzanriu Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Just don't glue the nose and turret mounted weapons in and paint all the options. They stick right in and won't fall out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deschenus Maximus Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Magnets, brah. You'll be kicking yourself if you glue those in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 I would not use the plasma cannon turret. Can not fire it at other flyers. Personally I prefer the multimelta and assault cannon combo. Most versatile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deschenus Maximus Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 That's my favorite loadout, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helias_Tancred Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 I thought about using the assault cannon, and I haven't ruled it out yet, however the lascannon is nice because it has range and great mech/armor knockout power. Its like a big honking sniper rifle. You don't think my hurricane bolter sponsons will give me enough anti-infantry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Together with the assault cannon, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Lascannon/MM for me for dedicated anti-air duties and back-up anti-tank in case my meltacide squads let me down. I prefer armour busting weapons on a highly mobile platform as it allows me to get round to side or rear armour. Infantry-killing weapons generally don't worry about the facing so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helias_Tancred Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 Lascannon/MM for me for dedicated anti-air duties and back-up anti-tank in case my meltacide squads let me down. I prefer armour busting weapons on a highly mobile platform as it allows me to get round to side or rear armour. Infantry-killing weapons generally don't worry about the facing so much. That was my view too, I may need this Stormraven to be an armor-buster first, and then infantry support second. Between the assault cannon and the lascannon. I will come to a decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Even if you luck out with the rends the AC can never one shot a vehicle. Worth keeping in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Gunzhard Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 I run the multi-melta, assault-cannon mix as well and never bother with the hurricanes. Today my SR took out a Wraithknight in 2 turns then a wave-serpent, then eventually unloaded a Furioso and Death Company for assaults before dying... for me that's pretty good hah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helias_Tancred Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 I run the multi-melta, assault-cannon mix as well and never bother with the hurricanes. Today my SR took out a Wraithknight in 2 turns then a wave-serpent, then eventually unloaded a Furioso and Death Company for assaults before dying... for me that's pretty good hah. Solid performance! .... still not to the point where I add the top turret weapons .... still thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandwen Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 I would say the hurricane bolters are good, but with it's other weapons they detract from it's worth. That cost can be used better elsewhere, and with them I always seem to have more weapons to shoot than i can fire at full bs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHarrower Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Definitely assault cannon and multi-melta. Problem with the lascannon is once you take out all the vehicles you can run out of effective targets. That's why I usually run hurricane bolters too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyuzanriu Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 The lascannon is pretty lackluster in my opinion. You can run MM/AC/Hurricane Sponsons and still wreck tanks. Everyone seems to forget that Stormstrike missiles are Str 8 AP 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaweda Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 What sort of armies do you come up against? Is what you are fielding right now struggling more with anti infantry or anti air or anti armour? For myself, I was needing more anti air, so I went with the lascannon. When I got my second stormraven, I wanted more anti infantry so I went assault cannon. Both have worked out exactly as I want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 The lascannon is pretty lackluster in my opinion. You can run MM/AC/Hurricane Sponsons and still wreck tanks. Everyone seems to forget that Stormstrike missiles are Str 8 AP 1. I thought they were AP2? That was the big difference between Bloodstrike (AP1) and stormstrike (AP2). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHarrower Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 The lascannon is pretty lackluster in my opinion. You can run MM/AC/Hurricane Sponsons and still wreck tanks. Everyone seems to forget that Stormstrike missiles are Str 8 AP 1. I thought they were AP2? That was the big difference between Bloodstrike (AP1) and stormstrike (AP2). They are AP2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helias_Tancred Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 What sort of armies do you come up against? Is what you are fielding right now struggling more with anti infantry or anti air or anti armour? For myself, I was needing more anti air, so I went with the lascannon. When I got my second stormraven, I wanted more anti infantry so I went assault cannon. Both have worked out exactly as I want. I've played two games so far with my Blood Angel force. I fought Eldar and Tau. I will be fighting Tau a decent amount as thats the army my friend has. He is also looking to start a space wolves army in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaweda Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Does he bring a lot of suits? Assault cannon is better than lascannon against crisis suits and the like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 The multiple rending shots from the Autocannon will serve you much better than a single lascannon shot vs. fliers, as well as infantry if you want to use the sponsons. I don't know what the big deal about the sponsons is, they are just bolters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helias_Tancred Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 Does he bring a lot of suits? Assault cannon is better than lascannon against crisis suits and the like. Actually he does .... Yep thanks for all your feedback brothers, assault cannon it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyuzanriu Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 The lascannon is pretty lackluster in my opinion. You can run MM/AC/Hurricane Sponsons and still wreck tanks. Everyone seems to forget that Stormstrike missiles are Str 8 AP 1. I thought they were AP2? That was the big difference between Bloodstrike (AP1) and stormstrike (AP2). They are AP2. Sorry guys that was actually a type that I did't bother too proofread since the post was so short. The difference between AP1 and AP2 is marginal either way. The Str 8 still makes then reliable at getting the job done on both heavy infantry and light to medium armor as well as lighter-heavy armor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHarrower Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 The lascannon is pretty lackluster in my opinion. You can run MM/AC/Hurricane Sponsons and still wreck tanks. Everyone seems to forget that Stormstrike missiles are Str 8 AP 1. I thought they were AP2? That was the big difference between Bloodstrike (AP1) and stormstrike (AP2). They are AP2. Sorry guys that was actually a type that I did't bother too proofread since the post was so short. The difference between AP1 and AP2 is marginal either way. The Str 8 still makes then reliable at getting the job done on both heavy infantry and light to medium armor as well as lighter-heavy armor. I don't think its marginal at all. +2 on the pen chart is huge! That being said, I'll take Assault Cannon over Lascannon every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 My preferred option is TLMM, TLAC and if the points allow, hurricane bolters. If I don't take the HB, nine times out of ten I miss them but is usually dependent on what I am facing. As for the primary weapon choices, once the missiles are gone if I have a TLMM and a TLLC then that's just two shots - which is a little sad really. I don't use the TLPC because weapons with Blast can't target Flyers, I don't use the TLHB because I have that ability elsewhere and I don't use the typhoon missile system because I don't want to pay the points for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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