Chefzilla Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Here's my question. You need one HQ and 2 troops. I use Army Builder and input all my units but in the break down my infantry platoon of 3 squads is only listed as 1 troop. In the IG is the smallest troop the squad or is it the platoon? If it's a platoon how many squads make up a platoon? Modern day TO&E is 4 squads per platoon. 4 platoons make up a company. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302367-what-constitutes-a-troop/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
scatmandoo Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 In Guard, you can either have a veteran squad or a platoon of Min = 1xpcs and 2 x inf squads. You can then add up to 3xinf, 5 x hwt and 3 x swt and 1 x conscripts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302367-what-constitutes-a-troop/#findComment-3927651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucien Eilam Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Well, first of all, read your codex instead of Army Builder. It does explain this. But 1 Platoon fills 1 Troops slot, no matter how many squads it's composed of. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302367-what-constitutes-a-troop/#findComment-3927656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chefzilla Posted January 21, 2015 Author Share Posted January 21, 2015 The codex wasn't much help there. It breaks down what a squad and a platoon are but for game organization is a squad a troop choice? If I'm fielding a platoon command squad and 3 infantry squads am I fielding an hq and 3 troop choices or am I only fielding 1 troop choice? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302367-what-constitutes-a-troop/#findComment-3927657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ravel Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Troop choice in terms of FOC i.e. army construction is a ''category'' of choice that exist mostly to orientate the creation of army. Since you need at least 1 HQ and 2 troops, you are always gonna have more dudes and boss, which is logic. It doesn't matter that it's 7 different squad (i.e. a platoon with different option and squad), it will still use only one ''slot'' of troop. They are still different squad acting independantly (unless you combined Infantry Squad), but under one ''slot'' for the sake of the construction of your army list. When you are playing the actual games with your list, they being your troop choice slot they gain, according to the big rule book, the ''objectif secure'' special rule, which grants them some bonus. But the different categories are mostly there to organize in a somewhat ''fluff'' way the creation of your army list. On the battlefield, it doesn't change much if the unit is either elite or fast (unless special rules enter into play, etc.). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302367-what-constitutes-a-troop/#findComment-3927660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Argos Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 The codex wasn't much help there. It breaks down what a squad and a platoon are but for game organization is a squad a troop choice? If I'm fielding a platoon command squad and 3 infantry squads am I fielding an hq and 3 troop choices or am I only fielding 1 troop choice? I'm not trying to be rude, but Pg 94 of the codex says "Each Inf Plt counts as a single troops slot on the FOC". The sentence above that tells you what can be in a platoon. In your example you have 1 troop choice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302367-what-constitutes-a-troop/#findComment-3927670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scatmandoo Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 The codex wasn't much help there. It breaks down what a squad and a platoon are but for game organization is a squad a troop choice? If I'm fielding a platoon command squad and 3 infantry squads am I fielding an hq and 3 troop choices or am I only fielding 1 troop choice? You seem to be getting confused between Company command and Platoon command. Company command squads are HQ. Platoon command squads are part of 1 infantry platoon. As said your example would be one troops choice. The alternative is to make it 1xCCS and 3xVet squads if models are limited. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302367-what-constitutes-a-troop/#findComment-3927682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 The Guard codex is good for little pieces of important information secreted away at the top of pages before all the big headings and fancy bits so it's always worth reading the entire page properly as you will almost certainly find your answer there :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302367-what-constitutes-a-troop/#findComment-3927766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chefzilla Posted January 21, 2015 Author Share Posted January 21, 2015 Thanks all for the help. Now I just need 1 more PCS and 1 more squad and I'll be good to go. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302367-what-constitutes-a-troop/#findComment-3927992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
librisrouge Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 You can also take squads of veterans if you're stretched for men. Only ten guys and you have a troop choice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302367-what-constitutes-a-troop/#findComment-3928123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chefzilla Posted January 22, 2015 Author Share Posted January 22, 2015 You can also take squads of veterans if you're stretched for men. Only ten guys and you have a troop choice. Which I'd probably do but that would really mess with my OCD. I want my Veteran squads to look different. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302367-what-constitutes-a-troop/#findComment-3928193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pathatrick Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 backpacks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302367-what-constitutes-a-troop/#findComment-3928296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmo Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Berets, paint scheme, backpacks etc... Anything that makes them standout. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302367-what-constitutes-a-troop/#findComment-3928326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Paen Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Just for enlightenment,... you can have a 10 man Veteran sqd as a troop choice. Two of these Sqds and a Company Cmnd Sqd would fullfill your min requirements. Thats 25 men. Six of these squads could fill your Force Organization Chart 65 men. A platoon of Infantry can be as small as ,...One Plt Cmnd Sqd , and two Infantry Sqds. Two of these Platoons along with a Co. Cmnd Sqd. is 55 men and would meet minimum requirements.. A FULL Platoon of Infantry can be as large as,...one Plt Cmnd Sqd (5 men) , five Infantry Sqds (50 men) , three Special weapon Sqds ( 18 men) , five Heavy Weapon Sqds (30 men) , and one Conscript Sqd ( which can be 50 strong). That's a total of 148 men in one Platoon. Six of these Platoons would fill your Force Org Chart at 888 men add to that Cmnd and Elite choices, and you..... well then you are truly a Guard player. Don't even get me started on Squadrons of tanks or artillery ,...or flyers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302367-what-constitutes-a-troop/#findComment-3928434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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