Lachdannan Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Yeah that is a very good synopsis of bikes. Made for a very interesting read, and made me look at them in a different light. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302431-scimitar-jetbikes-anyone-using-them/page/3/#findComment-4422202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Liked that, good to finally see it after hearing the Aussie's bang on about it :P Interesting he doesn't talk about Outrider ranged upgrades too much as well. Got to say I totally agree on the Jetbikes being saved for ranged combat, especially in a DA/ BA/ WS movie with all the buffs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302431-scimitar-jetbikes-anyone-using-them/page/3/#findComment-4422210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonite Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Hearing that Jetbikes are gun platforms saddens me a bit. I had this mental image in mind of a Praetor on one with a Paragon Blade, Thousand Son, all that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302431-scimitar-jetbikes-anyone-using-them/page/3/#findComment-4426015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Hearing that Jetbikes are gun platforms saddens me a bit. I had this mental image in mind of a Praetor on one with a Paragon Blade, Thousand Son, all that. And there is absolutely nothing stopping you! The article only talks from pure efficiency. Take a Jetbike Preator and command squad retinue, it'll be awesome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302431-scimitar-jetbikes-anyone-using-them/page/3/#findComment-4426026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonite Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Hearing that Jetbikes are gun platforms saddens me a bit. I had this mental image in mind of a Praetor on one with a Paragon Blade, Thousand Son, all that. And there is absolutely nothing stopping you! The article only talks from pure efficiency. Take a Jetbike Preator and command squad retinue, it'll be awesome. Was thinking more the Rite of War, but that could work too. I'm just thinking it could be fun, and I could count them as Tzeentchian Bikers in my Chaos Army/Chaos Lord/Sorcerer on a Disc, with a secondary base prepared. That, and it would let me mix Tomb Kings parts, already have a skull and scimitar piece that could totally be a lance head. (It helps I'm trying to make this army as different from my Death Guard - Almost all foot sloggers bar the one Spartan, otherwise it's all walkers or Infantry - as possible. Be that an all Terminator or more mobile Thousand Sons) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302431-scimitar-jetbikes-anyone-using-them/page/3/#findComment-4426040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironwithout Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Hearing that Jetbikes are gun platforms saddens me a bit. I had this mental image in mind of a Praetor on one with a Paragon Blade, Thousand Son, all that.And there is absolutely nothing stopping you! The article only talks from pure efficiency. Take a Jetbike Preator and command squad retinue, it'll be awesome. Was thinking more the Rite of War, but that could work too. I'm just thinking it could be fun, and I could count them as Tzeentchian Bikers in my Chaos Army/Chaos Lord/Sorcerer on a Disc, with a secondary base prepared. That, and it would let me mix Tomb Kings parts, already have a skull and scimitar piece that could totally be a lance head. (It helps I'm trying to make this army as different from my Death Guard - Almost all foot sloggers bar the one Spartan, otherwise it's all walkers or Infantry - as possible. Be that an all Terminator or more mobile Thousand Sons) Mate do it! They are good fun. Just as previously said not the most efficient unit Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302431-scimitar-jetbikes-anyone-using-them/page/3/#findComment-4426224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonite Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Hearing that Jetbikes are gun platforms saddens me a bit. I had this mental image in mind of a Praetor on one with a Paragon Blade, Thousand Son, all that.And there is absolutely nothing stopping you! The article only talks from pure efficiency. Take a Jetbike Preator and command squad retinue, it'll be awesome. Was thinking more the Rite of War, but that could work too. I'm just thinking it could be fun, and I could count them as Tzeentchian Bikers in my Chaos Army/Chaos Lord/Sorcerer on a Disc, with a secondary base prepared. That, and it would let me mix Tomb Kings parts, already have a skull and scimitar piece that could totally be a lance head. (It helps I'm trying to make this army as different from my Death Guard - Almost all foot sloggers bar the one Spartan, otherwise it's all walkers or Infantry - as possible. Be that an all Terminator or more mobile Thousand Sons) Mate do it! They are good fun. Just as previously said not the most efficient unit I plan to! I have a trip scheduled for Warhammer World anyway when I go to visit England, and I fly out to England at the end of the week and it was either going to be this and pre-ordering the next books, or more Death Guard, and they're at 1500 points and mostly unassembled as of now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302431-scimitar-jetbikes-anyone-using-them/page/3/#findComment-4426267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanct Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Consider this for a character; Primus Medicae, Scimitar, Boarding Shield = 140pts You get a 2+/6++ with FNP 5+ and a Cover Save from Jinking to tank shots (yes, you can jink when in a squad that cannot jink - although only the characters with that rule get the save), plus Defensive Grenades. For that cost you could get 4 more scimitars! FnP is great but cost:return it isn't so hot until the unit they are with is 10 strong. Plus you're only using the FnP when an armour save is failed...which is usually your 2+. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302431-scimitar-jetbikes-anyone-using-them/page/3/#findComment-4426817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 I'm more curious what the new heavy support jetbikes will be like. If they are basically the jet version of assault bikes, not sure if I would spend a precious HS slot for that. As for the manifesto, it was a good read but I could help thinking in the back of my head "this dude is trying to convince me bikes are good by comparing them to stone gauntlet breachers, which is a little like trying to convince someone to eat a dry turd because it tastes better than a wet one". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302431-scimitar-jetbikes-anyone-using-them/page/3/#findComment-4428182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Polo Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Just to be sure, HQs on jetbikes can only use the heavy bolters right? No volkites? :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302431-scimitar-jetbikes-anyone-using-them/page/3/#findComment-4429796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Just to be sure, HQs on jetbikes can only use the heavy bolters right? No volkites? Indeed - stuck with them unless you are a Dark Angel or Salamander, in which case you can get Acid Shells (APD6) or a Super Heavy Flamer (S6). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302431-scimitar-jetbikes-anyone-using-them/page/3/#findComment-4429817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Polo Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 That's what I thought but wanted to be sure since I don't have my books with me. Cheers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302431-scimitar-jetbikes-anyone-using-them/page/3/#findComment-4429864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Dark Angel jetbikes are awesome, though I'd caution against close combat, or they will be there forever. They do make wonderful tar pits against legion blobs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302431-scimitar-jetbikes-anyone-using-them/page/3/#findComment-4430410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caldera Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 I've had great success with a 3-man squadron with a volkite culverin. The T5/2+ and range make then really survivable and a low threat so they can harry successfully, and the speed makes them great objective grabbers. As an Iron Warriors player I get the pinning heavy bolters too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302431-scimitar-jetbikes-anyone-using-them/page/3/#findComment-4430455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Aye - the only jetbike squad I'd take into combat would be a DA Command squad one with Rad Grenades and a Consul in the Ravenwing RoW - MAYBE an EC one because they could break something on the charge with a good challenge from a spear. Both of those are very expensive though for what you get. The pace for them is certainly gunning things down. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302431-scimitar-jetbikes-anyone-using-them/page/3/#findComment-4430689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
defl0 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Interesting Thread. I pretty much came to the same conclusion about jet bikes in regards to Raven Guard. There just isn't much reason to take them except for in armies that can change their weapons or can run them in 3 man squads and keep them alive / not broken. White scars do them well though. http://www.petehappens.com/2016/06/raven-guard-30k-bikes-jet-bikes.html Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302431-scimitar-jetbikes-anyone-using-them/page/3/#findComment-4436954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Aye - the only jetbike squad I'd take into combat would be a DA Command squad one with Rad Grenades and a Consul in the Ravenwing RoW - MAYBE an EC one because they could break something on the charge with a good challenge from a spear. Both of those are very expensive though for what you get. The pace for them is certainly gunning things down. I'm conflicted about spears on Sgts. They issue mandatory challenge, artificer Sgt. declines, so you get to kill his friends but not him. Your life at this point depends on doing enough damage to break them and run them down. Otherwise, next turn he takes your mandatory challenge and you're facing a power fist with a two-handed power sword. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302431-scimitar-jetbikes-anyone-using-them/page/3/#findComment-4437145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
noigrim Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 That's wy WS got powerglaives for! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302431-scimitar-jetbikes-anyone-using-them/page/3/#findComment-4437282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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