Fire Golem Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Yeah it'll definitely be in the next book. I'm guessing we just use these rules til then? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302460-deredeo-pattern-dreadnought-fw-release-23-1-15/page/2/#findComment-3929306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raztalin Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I think it looks boss!!! An absolute beast!! Just a shame the rules dont support me using it in a DA army ... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302460-deredeo-pattern-dreadnought-fw-release-23-1-15/page/2/#findComment-3929315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRatfink Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Having just preordered mine, the chap on the phone confirmed there will be at least 2 more weapon options and another option in place of the missile launcher and rules will be in the next book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302460-deredeo-pattern-dreadnought-fw-release-23-1-15/page/2/#findComment-3929325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Looking at the rules, the anvilus autocannons are worse than the cheaper accelerator autocanons on the sicaran. The stat line is almost the same as the thudd gun with sunder shells, but you take 3 of those for the cost of a single dodo. It's only real perks over a mortis are a better missile launcher and re-rolling against armor pen. It'll be good against fliers, for sure, but a mortis does it nearly as well for less. I'm unsure what it really does over a contemptor with dual assault cannons and a missile launcher. Also I'm really laughing at how the rules aren't for the HH, yet its being sold in the HH section :) e: Looks like the pieces are modular so chances are we'll get some other cool weapon options for the arms and turret. Imagine this guy with quad lascanon arms. That would murderize fliers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302460-deredeo-pattern-dreadnought-fw-release-23-1-15/page/2/#findComment-3929327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adra'Melek Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Given the paint job (are Ultramarines associated with XIII in 40k?), I'm guessing it'll be in Tempest (if that's the Calth's book). I was thinking of getting a Mortis but if it is available I'll definitely get one of these instead. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302460-deredeo-pattern-dreadnought-fw-release-23-1-15/page/2/#findComment-3929329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Rules have been updated slightly, already. SW, BA and DA, can now take it, and its available for HH as well. EDIT: Not sure if I derped, or the rules were changed again, but I'll assume it was the latter. SW cannot take it outside of HH, it'd seem. Of little relevance here though Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302460-deredeo-pattern-dreadnought-fw-release-23-1-15/page/2/#findComment-3929368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlandMoonGuy Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 :) If FW reading this? Maybe if we keep adding to this thread we can inspire some other changes as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302460-deredeo-pattern-dreadnought-fw-release-23-1-15/page/2/#findComment-3929379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allart01 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I find kinda amusing that one "weapon destroyed" result leaves him completely armless... other than that, he looks ace! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302460-deredeo-pattern-dreadnought-fw-release-23-1-15/page/2/#findComment-3929382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 The rules for the rocket launcher are quite fun, just wish the autocannons fired more than 4... As previously said the cannons are pretty much the same as Thudd Gun Shatter Shells. Still looks like a BAMF though, I'm going to order mine next week and I'll see what might come out next Friday too... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302460-deredeo-pattern-dreadnought-fw-release-23-1-15/page/2/#findComment-3929389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I find kinda amusing that one "weapon destroyed" result leaves him completely armless... other than that, he looks ace! Yeah, they need to consider this. Having both be the same weapon is not really a good thing Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302460-deredeo-pattern-dreadnought-fw-release-23-1-15/page/2/#findComment-3929390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nusquam Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 The fact that it can have skyfire is what makes it worth sonsidering over a rapier battery or sicaran. It will do better in an AA role by a whole HP per turn. Though if you're in a meta that has almost no flyers there's better choices. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302460-deredeo-pattern-dreadnought-fw-release-23-1-15/page/2/#findComment-3929413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barabbas Sogalon Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Hmm. It's something about that dreadnought that makes me laugh. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302460-deredeo-pattern-dreadnought-fw-release-23-1-15/page/2/#findComment-3929417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_r_parker Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Rules have been updated slightly, already. SW, BA and DA, can now take it, and its available for HH as well Really, I've been looking at the Downloads page, and the three links to the Experimental rules on he product pages and they don't look any different. 40,000 only, limited to a Codex: Space Marines detachment. Anybody have a link to this new rule sheet, as I can't see it anywhere Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302460-deredeo-pattern-dreadnought-fw-release-23-1-15/page/2/#findComment-3929426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 The link is the same, Rules have been updated slightly, already. SW, BA and DA, can now take it, and its available for HH as well Really, I've been looking at the Downloads page, and the three links to the Experimental rules on he product pages and they don't look any different. 40,000 only, limited to a Codex: Space Marines detachment. Anybody have a link to this new rule sheet, as I can't see it anywhere The link is the same, make a forced refresh of the page (ctrl+F5?), or try opening in a different browser Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302460-deredeo-pattern-dreadnought-fw-release-23-1-15/page/2/#findComment-3929431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raztalin Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Rules have been updated slightly, already. SW, BA and DA, can now take it, and its available for HH as well Happy days! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302460-deredeo-pattern-dreadnought-fw-release-23-1-15/page/2/#findComment-3929438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SillyDreadnought Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I will definately be buying one or two of these... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302460-deredeo-pattern-dreadnought-fw-release-23-1-15/page/2/#findComment-3929440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awfulawful Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Having just preordered mine, the chap on the phone confirmed there will be at least 2 more weapon options and another option in place of the missile launcher and rules will be in the next book. One of the options for the carapace mount should me a massive spring-loaded boxing glove. I'm serious. It could be awesome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302460-deredeo-pattern-dreadnought-fw-release-23-1-15/page/2/#findComment-3929449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 If the old eddies were a reference, we might see a laser destroyer arm and maybe a missile launcher or plasma arm too! My dark angels want this sooo badly... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302460-deredeo-pattern-dreadnought-fw-release-23-1-15/page/2/#findComment-3929518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
coloroutofspace Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 The stat line is almost the same as the thudd gun with sunder shells, but you take 3 of those for the cost of a single dodo. ...Dodo Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302460-deredeo-pattern-dreadnought-fw-release-23-1-15/page/2/#findComment-3929533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 That thing is awesome, Contemptor + More Dakka = win 'nuff said Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302460-deredeo-pattern-dreadnought-fw-release-23-1-15/page/2/#findComment-3929539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I'm not sure its worth taking my only HS slot if I play the list I want too. Cool model though, a bit disappointed with the autocannon Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302460-deredeo-pattern-dreadnought-fw-release-23-1-15/page/2/#findComment-3929541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilofix Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Must get it. It's distraction Carnifex x10. Just hide it behind a building, use its missiles, and make folks more scared than they should be. Maybe they'll have other weapon systems for it later. Magnetize the arms. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302460-deredeo-pattern-dreadnought-fw-release-23-1-15/page/2/#findComment-3929561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Pretty happy that my current lists have a heavy support slot or two open! Going to be adding this to the order; still need to see Polix before it checks out though! Pretty surprised that this one can take Armored Ceramite. Its the only dread to do so. Also, its main gun having Sunder is pretty great and WILL make flyers cry. I might just but it with autocannon arms if the next two options dont include Volkite anywhere. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302460-deredeo-pattern-dreadnought-fw-release-23-1-15/page/2/#findComment-3929562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheForgottenAngel Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I'm going to wait until the other arms come (volkite which is all but gauranteed, possible plasma cannonade possible alternative to the missile launcher) I think this is a great platform for weapon options that wouldn't be feasible on a contemptor frame (powersource, weight contraints etc). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302460-deredeo-pattern-dreadnought-fw-release-23-1-15/page/2/#findComment-3929571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relict Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 You know, I thought the Deredeo was ugly at first... Now I find it oddly appealing. Nice to see it painted in UM colors as well, considering that's my next army. I wonder if we'll get a variant mounting twin Kheres assault cannons (or a beefed-up version thereof). That would essentially make the Contemptor-Mortis redundant and also free up an Elites slot. Now I must badger FW for that lovely UM blue recipe... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302460-deredeo-pattern-dreadnought-fw-release-23-1-15/page/2/#findComment-3929611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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