Barn Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I seem to remember reading that the Space Wolves had more Dreadnaughts than any other chapter. Anyone know the number or the reference? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302552-number-of-dreadnoughts/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Bearclaw Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Afraid I can't remember where it's stated, but I believe the number of Dreads is at the 100+ mark. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302552-number-of-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3931070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune_Priest_Rhapsody Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I know it is indeed a lot. I am sure there are those older than I that could get you a closer number than "100+" and "a lot"!! :D End of Line Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302552-number-of-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3931267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I know that the Space Wolves have over 200 Dreadnoughts, which is more than any other Chapter. Can't find the reference for that right now though. Will see if I can dig up where I got that number from. V Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302552-number-of-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3931373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I mean in the Ragnar Books it is implied that some dreadnoughts are actually assigned to various great companies.The battle against the the Dark Angels introduced us to a really cool one୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨ GYMIR THE ICE FISTED ! ୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302552-number-of-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3931378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 The current codex, page 10, next to last paragraph says: "Deep within the Fang lie a series of vaulted chambers. These ancient crypts are labyrinthine in construction, sprawling many miles underground. Here there is no light and few of the living Space Wolves ever venture into the darkness, for this is the resting place of fallen warriors. This is where the Chapter's Dreadnoughts slumber, awaiting the call to arms from the Great Wolf. The Space Wolf Dreadnoughts spend most of their time in sleep beneath the Fang, and are only roused from their torpor when they are needed in battle. The older a Dreadnought is, the harder it is to awaken, and the longer it takes to recover before it is ready for another battle. Although there are as many as a hundred or more Dreadnoughts beneath the Fang, the Great Wolf must be careful how he uses them. To commit more than a handful at once would be a rare and momentous event indeed." It's not exactly definitive, a hundred or more could be about a hundred, it could be many more than a hundred. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302552-number-of-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3931402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Exact same quote is on page 13 of the 5e Codex, so I think we have to go with "as many as a hundred, or more." Don't know where I got 200 from, so maybe I just remembered it wrong. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302552-number-of-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3931543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 There's also this from the Champions of Fenris supplement, in the Ancient Heroes section: "While Logan Grimnar’s Great Company is not the only one to employ Dreadnoughts, the Old Wolf ultimately makes the decision to awaken them, and command where they should be dispatched to war. It can take days or even weeks to fully wake a Dreadnought for war; the Space Wolf within will spend much of his half-life dreaming of the past, when he was a being of flesh and blood. As the warrior within grows more ancient he wakes less and less, his mind needing longer to come back to reality as he tries to reconcile his memories of centuries of war and death. However, as a Chapter filled with heroes, the Space Wolves can call upon dozens of Dreadnoughts, many of which are thousands of years old." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302552-number-of-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3931547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barn Posted January 26, 2015 Author Share Posted January 26, 2015 Thanks for the replies folks. How many Contemptors you think, 10ish? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302552-number-of-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3931654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Thanks for the replies folks. How many Contemptors you think, 10ish? Maybe, maybe less. No real indication of the exact number of Contemptors. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302552-number-of-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3931686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Bearclaw Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 As many Contemptors as you want/need there to be. To be honest I'm not a fan of fully quantifying the amount of materiel a Chapter has at its disposal. It just feels so limiting, especially as more often than not I think the quoted numbers are insultingly small 'Oh, this Chapter only has 6 vindicators and a dozen predators to support all 10 of its companies? That's not nearly enough to be worth a damn.'. Same principal applies to them listing the Strength of Ragnar's and Logan's companies down to the last man the the codex/CoF. Just doesn't seem necessary or helpful to me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302552-number-of-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3931770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barn Posted January 27, 2015 Author Share Posted January 27, 2015 It does if your crazy enough to try and model them all ;) Do we still have access to Ironclad's? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302552-number-of-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3932931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Bearclaw Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Still? We never did get Ironclads, and still can't take them (part of the surreal snubbing we get over Dreadnought selection in the crunch). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302552-number-of-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3933255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barn Posted January 27, 2015 Author Share Posted January 27, 2015 I havent played since fifth :P http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148896-space-wolves-ironclad-dreads/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302552-number-of-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3933448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I havent played since fifth http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148896-space-wolves-ironclad-dreads/ Ah that was back when we were still a "supplement" codex. Oh, those blissful days. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302552-number-of-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3933676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturm Moonwolf Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 To me, Legion VI always seems to have something, and letting others know exactly what we have is not in our nature. It can be attributed to Russ, in my mind, of not wanting to follow the Codex Astartes. Some things are best left unknown to potential enemies, or in other words, maybe we do, maybe we don't.... But if you are coming from the Inquisition to sanction us you better be ready... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302552-number-of-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3933722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 To me, Legion VI always seems to have something, and letting others know exactly what we have is not in our nature. It can be attributed to Russ, in my mind, of not wanting to follow the Codex Astartes. Some things are best left unknown to potential enemies, or in other words, maybe we do, maybe we don't.... But if you are coming from the Inquisition to sanction us you better be ready... I don't necessarily think it's a matter of being secretive. After all the Space Wolves are a 1st Founding Chapter with armories dating back to the Great Crusade. Furthermore the Fang used to play host to an entire Legion, now it's got just a few thousand inhabitants, most of whom aren't there very much. Whole areas of the Fang have fallen into disuse or have been forgotten about entirely including armories, arming chambers, feast halls, training rooms and all kinds of stuff. Who knows what lurks in the armories and halls of the Fang, could be anything. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302552-number-of-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3933732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I agree with Vash - 10k years is a long time there must be loads of sh*t that's been forgotten IIRC isnt there a bit in Battle of the Fang where they go into parts of the Fang that haven't been visited in hundreds of years Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302552-number-of-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3934367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Ridcully Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 To me, Legion VI always seems to have something, and letting others know exactly what we have is not in our nature. It can be attributed to Russ, in my mind, of not wanting to follow the Codex Astartes. Some things are best left unknown to potential enemies, or in other words, maybe we do, maybe we don't.... But if you are coming from the Inquisition to sanction us you better be ready... I don't necessarily think it's a matter of being secretive. After all the Space Wolves are a 1st Founding Chapter with armories dating back to the Great Crusade. Furthermore the Fang used to play host to an entire Legion, now it's got just a few thousand inhabitants, most of whom aren't there very much. Whole areas of the Fang have fallen into disuse or have been forgotten about entirely including armories, arming chambers, feast halls, training rooms and all kinds of stuff. Who knows what lurks in the armories and halls of the Fang, could be anything. And now I'm picturing the fang being like a mix between Erebor, Moria , the alps and whole lot of dakka, labs, and vehicle bays. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302552-number-of-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3934397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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