nightwing1511 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I gather helmets are not a favoured thing for most wolves. Dulls the senses, yes? Is it more likely that blood thirsty blood claws might helmet up? Or would it more likely be the wolf guard and long fangs that wear them? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302607-helmets/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopToffee Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Personally, I decided to go with very very few helmets in my army. I use the wolf-head helmet for any Wolf Guard pack leaders, and i used a helmeted terminator head for the guy toting the heavy flamer, but that's it, so far as I can remember. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302607-helmets/#findComment-3931984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I use helmets randomly scattered throughout my army as there are only so many heads. But there is no real canonical break down for when to helmet and when to not Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302607-helmets/#findComment-3932045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarog Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I tend to only use helmets for my plasma / melta guys, you know, dealing with that all day may melt your face off so I thought helmets would be a grand idea. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302607-helmets/#findComment-3932108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vykryl Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I think only my Wolf Guard have helmets so far. Used the wolf helm to help PAWG stand out from Grey Hunters. TDAWG have helmets so they stand out from HQ and Lone Wolf models. The only Claws I'm planning on are Skyclaws and I'm still thinking about giving them beaky helms or bare heads. As for helmets in general, Dantay_xv found this gem of humor for us. http://www.wobblymodelsyndrome.com/comic-337.html Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302607-helmets/#findComment-3932121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarog Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I think only my Wolf Guard have helmets so far. Used the wolf helm to help PAWG stand out from Grey Hunters. TDAWG have helmets so they stand out from HQ and Lone Wolf models. The only Claws I'm planning on are Skyclaws and I'm still thinking about giving them beaky helms or bare heads. As for helmets in general, Dantay_xv found this gem of humor for us. http://www.wobblymodelsyndrome.com/comic-337.html Haha! Plus I imagine all that hair inside a helmet would get pretty itchy! That's not what you need when the xeno scum are charging at your door, beard rash. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302607-helmets/#findComment-3932164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune_Priest_Rhapsody Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 In my army only glorious Grey Hunters are allowed to bear their face to the enemy. Blood Claws are forbidden. And once a wolf brother has made it to the ranks of wolf guard it is of his own choosing. ...except for the Void Claws. The majiks of the warp have altered their vision and has forced them to don their helmets as their glowing eyes frighted their brothers. As if Space Wolves could be frightened... End of Line Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302607-helmets/#findComment-3932174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatSmasher Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I like to include them on my models, but almost never put them on as heads. I will usually file it down, and attached it at the waist, or put in on the base. (See top right) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302607-helmets/#findComment-3932219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skallagoose Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I like the look of helmets more (future space battles and stuff), and would find it funny to have warriors go into battle without a helmet on. That said- in the fluff helmets are frowned upon by the wolves because it dulls the senses. There are specialized helmets that allow the wearer to still have the senses available to him (the wolf helmets), but they are rare and often given to squad leaders and such. That said- my fluff for my Company has them wear helmets for reasons i don't want to get into just yet because i know some lore-enthusist (said nicely) will disagree with my company's lore (just a long story short- its a company that is in the process of falling). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302607-helmets/#findComment-3932224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Personally, even with the enhanced senses, I find warriors wearing full plate armor going into battle without helmets just... wrong. Thusly the vast majority of my Wolves wear helmets, pretty much everyone who isn't a Blood Claw. My Sky Claws don't wear them, and a lot of my Blood Claws are helmetless, but everyone Grey Hunter and above wears their buckets. I figure they can always take them off to give the environment a good sniff or listen before dropping them back on. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302607-helmets/#findComment-3932260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athrawes Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 A lot of people say that un helmeted heads on space marines doesn't make much tactical sense. But even though I tend to agree with taht for my own armies, one of my favorite quotes about this comes from Captain Demeter in Fulgrim. He disdained the wearing of a helmet to prevent the Laer from deciphering his orders over the vox-network, and because he knew that if he were hit in the head with one of the Laer weapons, he was as good as dead, helmet or not. I imagine that a lot of Space Marines share this attitude. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302607-helmets/#findComment-3932263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Mayhem Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I just scatter them around my army, they're mainly on my Grey Hunters, but it hasn't stopped other members having them (My long fangs are all 2nd edition models, so they're all helmeted!). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302607-helmets/#findComment-3932343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Only a handful of models in my Space Wolves army don't have their helmets, and they're almost all special character models, Wolf Scouts, and a handful of Wolf Guard. Everybody else protects their melon. V Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302607-helmets/#findComment-3932530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarog Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Personally, even with the enhanced senses, I find warriors wearing full plate armor going into battle without helmets just... wrong. Thusly the vast majority of my Wolves wear helmets, pretty much everyone who isn't a Blood Claw. My Sky Claws don't wear them, and a lot of my Blood Claws are helmetless, but everyone Grey Hunter and above wears their buckets. I figure they can always take them off to give the environment a good sniff or listen before dropping them back on. Surely skyclaws would be the ones to wear them? Since they're blasting at high speeds through the air deep striking etc etc. I model mine as I think would make sence with regard to their specific job. I.e. melts guns, plasma guns etc etc, the guys have helmets. Flying through the air .... They have helmets. Most of the rest don't :) But tis just how I model then to make sense to me :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302607-helmets/#findComment-3932810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
benane Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 I also give all the special weapon guys a helmet and sprinkle some more in the unit here and there. Also I'm terrible at painting faces :> Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302607-helmets/#findComment-3932852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoyo ninja Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Most of mine have helmets. Nothing to do with fluff or what makes sense, it's manly because I hate painting eyes on a model, I'm so rubbish at it! They always look cross eyed! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302607-helmets/#findComment-3932862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasclomalum Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 He disdained the wearing of a helmet to prevent the Laer from deciphering his orders over the vox-network, and because he knew that if he were hit in the head with one of the Laer weapons, he was as good as dead, helmet or not. I imagine that a lot of Space Marines share this attitude. I always kinda figured though that military helmets weren't primarily designed to save you from a direct hit. I mean, what with the kinetics involved modern military kevlar helmet might save your head from perhaps one bullet and then you're suffering from whiplash anyway. Bullets aren't the only things to cause head injury though, moving fast through woodlands and ruined cityscapes means the risk of bumping your head into an often impressive array of obstacles is always present and a helmeted soldier would of course be able to move faster and more efficiently under such conditions. Then there is shrapnel. Shrapnel is bad. Marines who don't wear helmets often have "service studs" and the average Imperial citizen is too indoctrinated and in awe to ask them what they really are; only the apothecaries know the truth and boy do they bitch about it. Sorry, couldn't resist. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302607-helmets/#findComment-3933025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnavaer Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 I have only a handful of my wolves with their helmets on, a few have them mag locked onto their armour somewhere or placed on a handy rock or xenos skull on their base, but I would say a good 80-90% of my marines are bare headed. While I understand the argument and reasoning for wearing helmets I find that the bare headed look fits in much more for my vision of how the wolves would go to war and I like to think they would want to experience the world unfiltered and raw, and last but not least I really like painting bare heads and faces, the idea of painting over 80 fairly featureless marine helmets would bore me to tears Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302607-helmets/#findComment-3933163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 I tend to only use helmets for my plasma / melta guys, you know, dealing with that all day may melt your face off so I thought helmets would be a grand idea. Lol, I like that reasoning, even though i dislike helmetless marines in general. In my army only glorious Grey Hunters are allowed to bear their face to the enemy. Blood Claws are forbidden. And once a wolf brother has made it to the ranks of wolf guard it is of his own choosing.Interesting idea, are the higher ups afraid the pimply youths will make the enemy laugh? ...except for the Void Claws. The majiks of the warp have altered their vision and has forced them to don their helmets as their glowing eyes frighted their brothers. As if Space Wolves could be frightened...The hard vacuum of a space hulk or similar battlefields might not be so good for their skin either. @Rasclomalum: LOL. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302607-helmets/#findComment-3933171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune_Priest_Rhapsody Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 In my army only glorious Grey Hunters are allowed to bear their face to the enemy. Blood Claws are forbidden. And once a wolf brother has made it to the ranks of wolf guard it is of his own choosing.Interesting idea, are the higher ups afraid the pimply youths will make the enemy laugh? ...except for the Void Claws. The majiks of the warp have altered their vision and has forced them to don their helmets as their glowing eyes frighted their brothers. As if Space Wolves could be frightened...The hard vacuum of a space hulk or similar battlefields might not be so good for their skin either. HAHA!! It's an honor thing. One that is earned. So when you start out as a new marine, you are made to wear your helmet. Plus who wants to see a beardless space wolf?? Not me!! I think that the Void Claws have looked into the vast infinity of space often enough allowing them to harness enough of the wyrd that they can predict incoming units. Hence the glowing eyes. End of Line Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302607-helmets/#findComment-3933645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pstj Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 How I see it and model my army, is that blood claws and other youngsters are too eager and dumb to wear their helmets. Grey Hunters on the other hand have seen enough heads blown and smashed not to wear theirs. Wolf Guard (aside from a few terminators), long fangs and HQ have figured that they've survived thus far so why not let the world see your well groomed beard. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302607-helmets/#findComment-3933721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 All my void claws wear hats - hat or no hat you cant smell or hear in a vacuum. Other than that, most of my claws have hats, about 50% of my GH do, most of my WG, characters etc have no hats Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302607-helmets/#findComment-3934381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Ridcully Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Most of my models wear helmets, as I prefer the look and hate painting faces (least in lotr the models are small enough for a wash to be enough) though I have been thinking of makeing a new Wolf lord in either terminator armour or riding a Arcaini, err Thunderwolf so may go unhelmed possibly, or maybe go for something like Dain ironfoots helm from the the batte of 5 armies.I now have this image of the Grey hunters and long fangs teasing the claws over their lack of beards/pathetic ettempts at them, and the poor wolf guard/long fang who is just a late bloomer whilst they all wonder just what happened to Ragnar :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302607-helmets/#findComment-3934416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteridder Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 I use and helmet only space wolves army. Almost all my minis got helmets, because for me its diffucult to paint normal heads and eyes and so on. :-) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302607-helmets/#findComment-3934680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoic Raptor Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 The hard vacuum of a space hulk or similar battlefields might not be so good for their skin either. Actually, it's not that detrimental, in the short term. Between the carapace and one of the glands that secretes an oily protective layer, Marines can survive in vacuum longer than any mortal human. As for the helmet, it has auto-sense links that would convey all sensory information as effectively as a bare-headed soldier. Honestly, the only real reason to model a Marine with (or without) the helmet would be the Rule of Cool. Some look better with it, others without. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302607-helmets/#findComment-3944759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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