librisrouge Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 I just acquired a Valdor Tank Hunter and I have a conundrum. I'm reading through the Shock Pulse rule for its main weapon and I think it might cause an HP lose from even just a hit. Here is the rule in question: Shock Pulse (IA1: 2nd Ed., Pg. 149) The neutron laser pulse overwhelms a target vehicle's electronics and systems with a storm of electromagnetic radiation. Any non Super-heavy vehicle hit by the neutron laser suffers an automatic Crew Stunned result in addition to any damage caused by the weapon. This seems to overlap with what happens to a vehicle that fails a difficult terrain test, suffering an Immobilized result AND a HP lose, except now its Crew Stunned instead of Immobilized. I admit, it might be a reach or just a kindness from changing rule systems. Either way, I'm asking you guys your thoughts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302676-valdor-shock-pulse-and-hp-lose/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucio Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 It's not explicitally stated that you lose a HP, whereas the Imobilised ruke you're comparing it to does state that as a consequence. Therefore no, there's zero case for saying the ability causes a HP loss. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302676-valdor-shock-pulse-and-hp-lose/#findComment-3933278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristoff Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 It's not explicitally stated that you lose a HP, whereas the Imobilised ruke you're comparing it to does state that as a consequence. Therefore no, there's zero case for saying the ability causes a HP loss. ^ This. Much like Gravitation's Immobilization, it doesn't cause a Hull Point loss unless it specifically states it does or announces that it generates a Glancing Hit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302676-valdor-shock-pulse-and-hp-lose/#findComment-3933286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
markham82 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 To me it looks like the crew are stunned even if there is no glance or penetrating hit. And no auto HP loss just because you hit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302676-valdor-shock-pulse-and-hp-lose/#findComment-3933373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
librisrouge Posted January 27, 2015 Author Share Posted January 27, 2015 Vehicle Damage Results and Hull Points Occasionally, a rule will state that a vehicle will suffer the effects of a Crew Shaken, Crew Stunned, Weapon Destroyed or Immobilised result. Unless that rule also specifies that the vehicle suffers a glancing hit, a penetrating hit, or otherwise states that the vehicle loses a Hull Point, only the relevant result on the Vehicle Damage chart is applied to the vehicle and no Hull Points are lost. This is why I probably should wait until I can look through my rulebook before I go about posting all willy nilly. The Shock Pulse rule doesn't specify anything but Crew Stunned so Crew Stunned is it. Thanks for the input though guys. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302676-valdor-shock-pulse-and-hp-lose/#findComment-3933491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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