Emperor's Furor Posted February 2, 2015 Author Share Posted February 2, 2015 Even the heresy FW books give u like 4 explanations of where the Primarch came from and each of them ended in "This is a lie" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302680-where-are-the-alpha-legion-at-right-now/page/3/#findComment-3938835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Ah cool. Let us know what these are! One being a lie that it is a lie is cool. Or all of them being true. Ah my brain is working overtime now! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302680-where-are-the-alpha-legion-at-right-now/page/3/#findComment-3938880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted February 2, 2015 Author Share Posted February 2, 2015 One is that he ambushed a Luna Wolves ship and when the main fleet including Horus came along he out manoeuvred them and was able to board the ship killing Horus's Bodyguard until he was face to face with Horus. The second was that he was on a desolate world where the former occupants had all gone and it was a ruin, when Half Human / Xenos renegades turned up and he killed them all taking their weapons and ship. The third is he landed on a tech-oligarchy world but before the first year was out the slaught arrived to feed, they took him alive and tortured him and twisted his mind, he was eventually saved by the Emperor. The fourth was that he had been left behind during the scattering of the Primarchs and was badly wounded but nursed back to health by the Emperor and he became the Emperor's secret hand. All these stories end with "These accounts are a lie". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302680-where-are-the-alpha-legion-at-right-now/page/3/#findComment-3938889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 The first was in the Index Astartes. I like the last one but it's not workable. Ha they certainly can't all work together. Thanks for that. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302680-where-are-the-alpha-legion-at-right-now/page/3/#findComment-3938892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted February 2, 2015 Author Share Posted February 2, 2015 Well the last could work, I mean apparently Vulkan travelled around with the Emperor for a long time before he was reunited with his legion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302680-where-are-the-alpha-legion-at-right-now/page/3/#findComment-3938896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Yeah but Horus was supposedly that guy! Oh it would be great to throw into the face of Horus though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302680-where-are-the-alpha-legion-at-right-now/page/3/#findComment-3938897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Wanna know how i got these scars? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302680-where-are-the-alpha-legion-at-right-now/page/3/#findComment-3938953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Quite. We'll find out more about Alpharius and Omegon the day they tell us more about the lost Legions I expect. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302680-where-are-the-alpha-legion-at-right-now/page/3/#findComment-3939021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Meanwhile you guys are arguing about the height of Alpharius, the Alpha Legion is infiltrating yo base, stealin yo things. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302680-where-are-the-alpha-legion-at-right-now/page/3/#findComment-3939090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyvern Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Hide yo kidds, hide yo wife, coz alpha legion snatching yo people up? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302680-where-are-the-alpha-legion-at-right-now/page/3/#findComment-3939283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
no I'm alpharius Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 I've lost track of it all and, frankly, its embarassing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302680-where-are-the-alpha-legion-at-right-now/page/3/#findComment-3940630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantay VI Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I suspect the Alpha Legion did not give over all the technology to Horus in Deliverance Lost to make sure that if Horus won he would be too weak to capitalise and then Chaos would burn itself out, either that or with the corruption caused to the geneseed thingummy causing mutation in the Raven Guard it would debase and cripple all Horus' new recruits. Furthermeore upon Horus' death, his corpse was stolen and an attempt to make a cone of Horus was made. It doesnt state whether this was successful or not, only that Abaddon destroyed the clone. If Horus was seen to rise from the dead, Chaos could have come back, defeated the Emperor, but also been too strong and would not have burnt itself out but been resurgent Space Wolves may have been infiltrated, or certainly an attempt made. Kasper Hawser was a spy, but we do not know who for... Was it the 15th Legion as suspected, or were they wrongly accused and set up for a fall. Was it Erebus using him as a warp conduit to see what the Wolves were up to, or was it an attempt by the Alpha Legion The Alphas have also launched attacks on their own secret installations too... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302680-where-are-the-alpha-legion-at-right-now/page/3/#findComment-3947939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Bearclaw Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Space Wolves may have been infiltrated, or certainly an attempt made. Kasper Hawser was a spy, but we do not know who for... Was it the 15th Legion as suspected, or were they wrongly accused and set up for a fall. Was it Erebus using him as a warp conduit to see what the Wolves were up to, or was it an attempt by the Alpha Legion Been a while since I read it, but doesn't PB make it pretty clear it was Daemons/Chaos/Tzeentch that Hawser was 'spying' for. Plus, haven't the Wolves been the only Legion shown to immediately detect attempted AL infiltration (because they smell wrong)? That said, I don't really like how the Heresy series has handled the AL. FW have done better, but BL's job has been pretty poor imo. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302680-where-are-the-alpha-legion-at-right-now/page/3/#findComment-3947944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I suspect the Alpha Legion did not give over all the technology to Horus in Deliverance Lost to make sure that if Horus won he would be too weak to capitalise and then Chaos would burn itself out, either that or with the corruption caused to the geneseed thingummy causing mutation in the Raven Guard it would debase and cripple all Horus' new recruits. Furthermeore upon Horus' death, his corpse was stolen and an attempt to make a cone of Horus was made. It doesnt state whether this was successful or not, only that Abaddon destroyed the clone. If Horus was seen to rise from the dead, Chaos could have come back, defeated the Emperor, but also been too strong and would not have burnt itself out but been resurgent Space Wolves may have been infiltrated, or certainly an attempt made. Kasper Hawser was a spy, but we do not know who for... Was it the 15th Legion as suspected, or were they wrongly accused and set up for a fall. Was it Erebus using him as a warp conduit to see what the Wolves were up to, or was it an attempt by the Alpha Legion The Alphas have also launched attacks on their own secret installations too... Actually, Fabius Bile stole the Body of Horus from the SoH and did, in fact, successfully clone him. At this point, however, Abaddon arrived and killed the clone, destroyed the original body and took the Talon Of Horus as his own. Also, the Big E obliterated Horus' soul. It literally no longer exists in the warp or otherwise. Its gone. As if he never existed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302680-where-are-the-alpha-legion-at-right-now/page/3/#findComment-3947954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Tharand Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I suspect the Alpha Legion did not give over all the technology to Horus in Deliverance Lost to make sure that if Horus won he would be too weak to capitalise and then Chaos would burn itself out, either that or with the corruption caused to the geneseed thingummy causing mutation in the Raven Guard it would debase and cripple all Horus' new recruits. Furthermeore upon Horus' death, his corpse was stolen and an attempt to make a cone of Horus was made. It doesnt state whether this was successful or not, only that Abaddon destroyed the clone. If Horus was seen to rise from the dead, Chaos could have come back, defeated the Emperor, but also been too strong and would not have burnt itself out but been resurgent Space Wolves may have been infiltrated, or certainly an attempt made. Kasper Hawser was a spy, but we do not know who for... Was it the 15th Legion as suspected, or were they wrongly accused and set up for a fall. Was it Erebus using him as a warp conduit to see what the Wolves were up to, or was it an attempt by the Alpha Legion The Alphas have also launched attacks on their own secret installations too... Actually, Fabius Bile stole the Body of Horus from the SoH and did, in fact, successfully clone him. At this point, however, Abaddon arrived and killed the clone, destroyed the original body and took the Talon Of Horus as his own. Also, the Big E obliterated Horus' soul. It literally no longer exists in the warp or otherwise. Its gone. As if he never existed. If you want to believe the story of some filthy Thousand Son sorcerer! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302680-where-are-the-alpha-legion-at-right-now/page/3/#findComment-3947959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I suspect the Alpha Legion did not give over all the technology to Horus in Deliverance Lost to make sure that if Horus won he would be too weak to capitalise and then Chaos would burn itself out, either that or with the corruption caused to the geneseed thingummy causing mutation in the Raven Guard it would debase and cripple all Horus' new recruits. Furthermeore upon Horus' death, his corpse was stolen and an attempt to make a cone of Horus was made. It doesnt state whether this was successful or not, only that Abaddon destroyed the clone. If Horus was seen to rise from the dead, Chaos could have come back, defeated the Emperor, but also been too strong and would not have burnt itself out but been resurgent Space Wolves may have been infiltrated, or certainly an attempt made. Kasper Hawser was a spy, but we do not know who for... Was it the 15th Legion as suspected, or were they wrongly accused and set up for a fall. Was it Erebus using him as a warp conduit to see what the Wolves were up to, or was it an attempt by the Alpha Legion The Alphas have also launched attacks on their own secret installations too... Actually, Fabius Bile stole the Body of Horus from the SoH and did, in fact, successfully clone him. At this point, however, Abaddon arrived and killed the clone, destroyed the original body and took the Talon Of Horus as his own. Also, the Big E obliterated Horus' soul. It literally no longer exists in the warp or otherwise. Its gone. As if he never existed. If you want to believe the story of some filthy Thousand Son sorcerer! First part, maybe. Second part I remember hearing/reading about long before the Talon of Horus (book series) was released so I'm more inclined to believe that his soul was, in fact, annihilated. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302680-where-are-the-alpha-legion-at-right-now/page/3/#findComment-3947964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Tharand Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I suspect the Alpha Legion did not give over all the technology to Horus in Deliverance Lost to make sure that if Horus won he would be too weak to capitalise and then Chaos would burn itself out, either that or with the corruption caused to the geneseed thingummy causing mutation in the Raven Guard it would debase and cripple all Horus' new recruits. Furthermeore upon Horus' death, his corpse was stolen and an attempt to make a cone of Horus was made. It doesnt state whether this was successful or not, only that Abaddon destroyed the clone. If Horus was seen to rise from the dead, Chaos could have come back, defeated the Emperor, but also been too strong and would not have burnt itself out but been resurgent Space Wolves may have been infiltrated, or certainly an attempt made. Kasper Hawser was a spy, but we do not know who for... Was it the 15th Legion as suspected, or were they wrongly accused and set up for a fall. Was it Erebus using him as a warp conduit to see what the Wolves were up to, or was it an attempt by the Alpha Legion The Alphas have also launched attacks on their own secret installations too... Actually, Fabius Bile stole the Body of Horus from the SoH and did, in fact, successfully clone him. At this point, however, Abaddon arrived and killed the clone, destroyed the original body and took the Talon Of Horus as his own. Also, the Big E obliterated Horus' soul. It literally no longer exists in the warp or otherwise. Its gone. As if he never existed. If you want to believe the story of some filthy Thousand Son sorcerer! First part, maybe. Second part I remember hearing/reading about long before the Talon of Horus (book series) was released so I'm more inclined to believe that his soul was, in fact, annihilated. I definitely believe, like you, his soul was annihilated by the Emperor. So I think while the clone of Horus was successful in Talon of Horus it wasn't "The Real" Horus if you know what I mean. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302680-where-are-the-alpha-legion-at-right-now/page/3/#findComment-3947970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Indeed. It was naught but a flesh puppet devoid of what made Horus, Horus. And lets be honest, who really thinks Fabulous Bill, Apothecary of the Emperors Children would be able to replicate a singular creation of the Emperor? As for the Alpha Legion, I stand by the Theory that GK GM Janus is Omegon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302680-where-are-the-alpha-legion-at-right-now/page/3/#findComment-3947975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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