Bulwyf Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I just got an email from BL about this new Chapter and why they will be my "new favorite". What is the obsession with Smurf blue for Loyal Chapters? This is not even an Ultrasmurf chapter. They are a White Scars Chapter. And, you know, would not the name "DARK Hunters" sorta lend itself to a black or very dark color scheme? I realize it is a reference to their probably hunter of all the dark evils of gribbly bits of Chaos but still. Why so much Smurf blue color scheme? Do Raven Guard own the only patent for black paint as a Loyal Chapter or something? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302726-dark-hunters/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ammonius Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I am thinking its more like "Night Lord Blue". In fact, the whole "night world" and "ambushes" mentioned in the promo material makes me think that we're about to see some Traitor-Style brutality with a Loyalist candy-coat. I know I'm going to buy the book. :) Oh, and the Hammers of Dorn and Iron Hands also wear black, so the Raven Guard isn't all by themselves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302726-dark-hunters/#findComment-3934369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilofix Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Blue is actually more rare than black (Dark Angels, Raven, Templar, Iron, Death Company, etc.). While white is way more prevalent in HH. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302726-dark-hunters/#findComment-3934393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Dark Hunters are actually pretty cool, simply because of the fact that the main objective of the army, and apparently six other Chapters, is to hunt down the Punishers Chaos Warband. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302726-dark-hunters/#findComment-3934427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Blue is actually more rare than black (Dark Angels, Raven, Templar, Iron, Death Company, etc.). While white is way more prevalent in HH. Those ten thousand years of war muddy the armour somewhat... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302726-dark-hunters/#findComment-3934510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apothecary Vaddon Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Never even heard of them until I saw the threads here and in the general forum - vaguely remember the short story about the distress signal, but it was a loooong time ago. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302726-dark-hunters/#findComment-3935220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volt Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Dark Hunters are an older and good Chapter. They're brutal guys permanently on a mission and have a unique coloration as well. They aren't smurfs, their colors are extremely dark midnight blue, similar to Night Lords, only more vibrant. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302726-dark-hunters/#findComment-3935668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candleshoes Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 They have their own fluff paragraph and model in the 7th Edition Space Marine Codex. They have some nice fluff bones to stand on. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302726-dark-hunters/#findComment-3936099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volt Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Also, for the age of the Chapter, I'm pretty sure the Dark Hunters have been around since 2004. BTW, some nice new art for them was commissioned by GW. http://ukitakumuki.deviantart.com/art/Black-Library-Dark-Hunters-Umbra-Sumus-510481072 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302726-dark-hunters/#findComment-3936578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Valrak Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Sneaky Eldar in between the Marines ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302726-dark-hunters/#findComment-3937224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candleshoes Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 I'm picking up the shorts: "The Blind King" and "The Last Detail' Looking forward to reading them and will make a decision from there whether the novel on the 6th will be worth it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302726-dark-hunters/#findComment-3938677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volt Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 The Last Detail is good, I recommend it. One of the few Space Marine short stories that focuses on the human element. It's also nice to see some consistency in the Black Library, the novel's by the same author, so there shouldn't be any whiplash in depiction. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302726-dark-hunters/#findComment-3939235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apothecary Vaddon Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 The Blind King is a pretty good short, can't wait for the novel Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302726-dark-hunters/#findComment-3939714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candleshoes Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Finnished both. Was very pleased and actually quite suprised with how much I enjoyed both. Were they AAA quality off the bat? No - but it was entertaining, it was building the bones of something important, and it took itself seriously. This is already above and beyond many of the Chapter X or Regiment Y authors. I commend the author for his imagery - a father and a son unburying a fully plated space marine with their bare hands from the murk. They close atmosphere burn of a strike cruiser, which looks like a flying cathedral. The unplating of a marine whose armour no longer has power. The close quarter trampel of assualt marines inside of a titan. The miracle of the biology of a space marine - and how that in itself is as much of a character as anything else. Along with the imagery, I like the direction he is taking the chapter - he touches on the creation, how they built up from 100 marines, how they slowly lost cultural ties with the Scars and gained their own. Kudos to how rough shape they are in, and how they overcome that hurrdle. I wil be purchasing the Feb 6 full novel and look forward to seeing their fluff and characters expanded. Only criticism is how liberally the author uses the word "Chaos", especially infront of humans who have little to no understanding of it. Just a nitpick, otherwise keep up the great writing! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302726-dark-hunters/#findComment-3939729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volt Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Glad you enjoy it. It is one of the better Black Library books, and the ending was even a tad heartfelt. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302726-dark-hunters/#findComment-3939907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Valrak Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I'm sure this book was supposed to be released this week? Can't find it anywhere on the BL site. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302726-dark-hunters/#findComment-3943978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucien Eilam Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 It was supposed to go on preorder on Friday. It's not out until May or something. They seem to have removed all trace of it from the website though. Hardback, MP3 and ebook product pages, and multiple blog posts (there were at least two - the "your new favourite Chapter" one and an interview with the author posted on Wednesday) are all 404s now. Ominous. EDIT: The Blind King and The Last Details are gone too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302726-dark-hunters/#findComment-3944156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucien Eilam Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Apparently this might be due to a legal issue with the "Dark-Hunter" series in the sparkly vampire bull:cuss genre. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302726-dark-hunters/#findComment-3944191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Ridiculous. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302726-dark-hunters/#findComment-3944312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Apparently this might be due to a legal issue with the "Dark-Hunter" series in the sparkly vampire bull:cuss genre. Any source, out of interest? Similar topic in N&D, and this hadn't come up yet! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302726-dark-hunters/#findComment-3944320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucien Eilam Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Any source, out of interest? Somebody on Warseer says they overheard BL staff talking at the Weekender: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?404945-Dark-Hunters-Umbra-Sumus&p=7377692&viewfull=1#post7377692 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302726-dark-hunters/#findComment-3944333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Any source, out of interest? Somebody on Warseer says they overheard BL staff talking at the Weekender: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?404945-Dark-Hunters-Umbra-Sumus&p=7377692&viewfull=1#post7377692 Interesting reading - thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302726-dark-hunters/#findComment-3944338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucien Eilam Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 If true, they would just need to change the name of the series, but that might mean pulping the existing stock. The author has the worst luck - one of his earlier trilogies is still in limbo after the US publisher refused to either print the final volume or relinquish the rights so Solaris could do it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302726-dark-hunters/#findComment-3944575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNWolf Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I know of the Dark Hunter series they are probably talking about. Its a fairly long series by Sherelyn Kennyon. Not bad reads actually but I agree all BL has to do is change the name of the series. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302726-dark-hunters/#findComment-3947315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 ...so are these guys nothing like the White Scars? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302726-dark-hunters/#findComment-3948339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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