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  • 2 weeks later...

I'm not too bothered by the lack of Omegon, if truth be told. He's supposed to be a well guarded secret of the XXth, so him explicitly getting rules would surprise me as he and Alpharius are one and the same as far as anyone outside the legion is aware and the same should be true on the tabletop. From my own point of view I feel like there shouldn't be two obvious primarchs running around as that isn't the Alpha Legion's style.

 

I'm also a fan of the notion that Exodus is Omegon in hiding, and it's something I wondered myself when I first saw the rules. He's got a fairly beefy statline, and from a fluff point of view he wouldn't openly employ his full powers as that would risk giving the secret away.

 

If I could choose to see any more rules in the game for AL I'd want the Efrit Stealth squad.

I always saw a hint of Omegon in Exodus, because he has It Will Not Die and some epic shooting.

Your not the only one Brother, also old fluff suggested that Omegon was master of the Scout companies ;)

 

I just secretly pretend he is and that in his "stats" hes holding back so he doesnt arouse suspicion that hes actually a Primarch and therefor only costs a quarter of the price :P

I always saw a hint of Omegon in Exodus, because he has It Will Not Die and some epic shooting.

Your not the only one Brother, also old fluff suggested that Omegon was master of the Scout companies msn-wink.gif

I just secretly pretend he is and that in his "stats" hes holding back so he doesnt arouse suspicion that hes actually a Primarch and therefor only costs a quarter of the price tongue.png

One could also argue that he won't jeopardize his anonymity by sticking around long enough for people to realize he's a primarch, which could thus explain his lower statsline...

  • 2 weeks later...
So this is what I came up with when I was trying to figure out some cool and fitting rules for 'Omegon' - although when I say Omegon what I really mean is a profile for either of the Primarchs to use when not acting in their ostentacious role. Calling it Omegon just makes it easier to differentiate between the two.
 
Omegon I have designed to work in a slightly different way from Alpharius; rather than hiding then revealing his presence he instead takes on the more well-known AL tactic of subterfuge and misdirection by having all the legionaries claim to be Alpharius. In game terms this means allowing him to swap with other models and boost the squads he is in. Following on from some fluff I read in the Heresy books, the Primarchs could give some of their blood to make them even more like their Primarchs, so much so that they even fooled Apothecaries. I thought this was the best way to represent the possibility of there being multiple Omegons by allowing him to trade wounds to multiply his presence. Possibly risky but potentially very rewarding. 
I gave him a weapon that was effectively anything so that there would be no defining thing that would be left when he moved to a new unit. Likewise I have kept his wargear items pretty basic so it doesn't stretch the realms of plausibility when he moves to a new unit and the one he leaves suddenly doesn't have a MASSIVE GUN OF DOOM or INVINCIBLE ARMOUR.
With his special rules I wanted to move away from the lightning-strike-decapitation style that Alpharius is more towards with the bonus outflanking, and instead focus more on setting up ambush/trap opportunities. 
 
Omegon                                                                        Pts: 480?
 
                                     Ws    Bs    S    T    W    I     A     Ld     Sv  
Alpharius (Omegon) .........7      7      6    6    6     5    5     10    2+/4++
 
Wargear:
The Tools of War: In the hands of a Primarch, anything becomes a lethal weapon. Combined with this is training in every form of unarmed combat known to the Imperium - including some created by the twin Primarchs themselves. Regardless of what he is armed with, Omegon uses the following profile.
Melee:           Str - As User   Ap - 2    Type - Melee, Adaptive Combat Style (Each turrn select one special rule to apply to Omegon's attacks from Blind, Concussive, Shield-Mocker or Shred).
Range - 24"   Str - 5             AP - 3    Type - Assault 4
 
Ghostwind Grenades: These special grenades were devised by Alpharius/Omegon to be used in stealth missions; with no sound or light produced, all the enemy experiences is a burst of static and a change of pressure as the air around them distorts in a crushing field of silence. They count as assault and defensive grenades. 
Range - 8'     Str - 4              Ap - 4     Type - Blast (D3), Haywire*, Concussive.     *Although D3 grenades are thrown, the haywire effect can only effect a vehicle once per phase. 
 
Holoplate Armour: This specialised suit of Artificer armour incorporates numerous holographic projectors, warding devises, shield generators and electro-magnetic emitters that are all designed to deceive and confuse attackers.
This armour grants Omegon a 2+ armour save, a 4+ invulnerable save and confers a +1 cover save to Omegon and any unit he joins.
 
Cameleoline
 
Cognis Signum
 
Special Rules:
Sire of the Alpha Legion: Omegon has Preferred Enemy (Everything), Move Through Cover, Scout, Crusader and Infiltrate special rules. He confers these rules to any squad he joins.  
 
Master of Ambush: Omegon may select his Warlord Trait. Any army that includes Omegon will Seize the Initiative on a 4+; enemy armies may not attempt to Seize the Initiative. Omegon may alter all reserve rules by +/-1. All infantry units in an army led by Omegon gain the Infiltrate special rule. 
 
I'm Aplharius: Each turn Omegon may take a Leadership test before the movement phase. If passed, Omegon loses a wound and then takes the place of any other friendly Alpha Legion infantry model on the board. The unit Omegon has just left gains a copy of Omegon, which uses the same rules (choose any unique-looking figure to represent this) but only has 1 wound remaining. This copy loses access to the Wargear of the Primarch, instead using the same wargear as the majority of his unit, but the statline and Sire of the Alpha Legion special rule remain in effect. 
Any time Omegon suffers a wound from an enemy model or unit this rule may be triggered except no model is left to represent the Primarch after he has chosen a new unit - it dies whilst pretending to be the Primarch. 
At any point you may switch which 'Omegon' on the board is the real Omegon and which is the copy. 
 
Primarch
 
Bulky
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
I also came up with rules that think would fit the Effrit squad. 
 
The Effrit Stealth Squad was a specialised infiltration unit within the ranks of the Alpha Legion that operated during the Great Crusade and Horus Heresy eras during the late 30th and early 31st Millennia. This elite force was formed from those Legionaries that specialised in infiltration, stealth, sabotage and assassination. These operatives were chosen for their adaptive thinking as well as their ability to improvise. The Effrit Stealth Squad was akin to the Legion Seeker Squads found within some of the Space Marine Legions, whose principal task on the battlefield was to identify an enemy's command structure, and slay these officers with a well-placed bolt round while the chaos of battle raged around them. The Alpha Legion are said to have been the first of the Legions to have developed this tactic and squad configuration, although its use sat poorly within the more honourable combat doctrine of some of the Legions like the Space Wolves. The Effrit Stealth Squad was personally led by Omegon, one of the twin-Primarchs of the Alpha Legion. Little else is known of this elite formation, as the Alpha Legion was notorious for the obfuscation and secrecy that surrounded the internal workings of their mysterious Legion.
 
 
0-1 Effrit Stealth Squad.                                                       Pts: 180 + 25/model
                                                                Ws    Bs    S    T    W    I    A    Ld    Sv
Alpharius (Effrit Marine)              ...............   5      5     4    4     1    4    2    8      3+
Alpharius (Effrit Marine Sergeant)   ..............  5       5     4    4     1    5    3    9      3+
 
Size: 4 Marines + 1 Sergeant. Up to 5 additional marines.
 
Wargear:
Power Armour
Close Combat Weapon
Bolt Pistol
Bolters with specialist ammunition.
Frag + Krak Grenades
Camelioline
 
Wargear Options:
Exchange CCW for Power Dirk +10 pts/model (Power Dirk can be used as a Power Sword or Power Dagger)
 
Any Marine may exchange their Bolter for a Sniper Rifle +  2pts/model
Any Marine may exchange their Bolter for a Combi-Weapon +  5pts/model
 
The squad may take Melta Bombs for +25 pts
The Squad may take Banestrike Ammo for +20 pts
 
The Sergeant may take a Power Fist for +15 pts or a Power Weapon for +10 pts
The Sergeant may take Artificer Armour for +10 pts
The Sergeant may take Melta Bombs (if the squad has not upgraded to them) for +5 pts
 
Special Rules:
Legiones Astartes (Alpha Legion)
Special Operatives: Before the battle begins the Effrit Stealth Squad may select an additional rule from 'Mutable Tactics' and one rule from the 'Veterans' options. They also have the Precision Shot and Precision Strike special rules.
 
I felt the profile fitted with them being a highly trained, specialised team of operatives - Basically veterans with a point of Ws and Bs. 
Wargear was chosen to reflect their similarities to a seeker squad and stealth ability.
Special Rules I wanted to make them a step above veterans and reflect their independent, flexible approach to warfare so I thought giving a second choice on Mutable Tactics would fit the bill.
 
 
 
 
Do you think this would fit the bill?

 

  • 9 months later...

Interesting thought about the twins? The alpha legion and their primarch are all about lies and deception. So many and to a degree that some bit of truth escapes. What if one of the two is actually a space marine? We already know that the legion typically mimics alpharius to extreme success. We also know that legionaries can look the spitting image of their primarch.(the case of little Horus(eve so much that an assassin believed them to be one and the same) Would it be that far of a stretch to say that alpharius made one (or more?) legionaries be "omagon." This would explain why none of the "legends" surrounding his finding include a brother. It would also explain why beings like Magnus are still unaware of the brother. It would be the lie within the lie that alpharius is very well known for. And if there are multiple omagons it would account for how the "twins" seem to be everywhere within the legion. And finally it really follows with gw's nature to overdo typical legion themes. (Looking at you wolfy mcwolfersons) just an interesting thought

 

Edit: clean up

I wish this had been left open at the end of Legion... If only noone had actually seen the two together at the same time the possibility of the two not being twins at all would have been alot more plausible (or the possibility that the two might just be facets of a split personality!)
Did it actually verify that they are twins? The council said it and alpharius was very willing to Divulge the information. He confirmed his "biggest secret" to a Xenos cabal. A secret he has kept from the high lords of terra, all the other primarchs, and possibly even the emperor. That's two semi omnipotent beings, and about a dozen that can sense when another primarch is around. So your telling me that he is that successful at deceit, but worse at opsec than the U.S. Government? Doesn't add up. It make way more sense for him to go along with it and create a plausible deniability for him self. Angry evil cabal: "why did you betray us?!?" Sly primarch: "oh no, that was my good twin brother... I would NEVER betray you"

Love this conspiracy theory fluff talk.  Post Heresy the Alpha Legion see that Horus and the Emperor are both out of the picture, any plan and back up plan is now gone.  They still might want a universe without Chaos meddling with all their plans, so they think how do we create another event where enough powers are aligned to remove Chaos ?  Alpharius goes around trying to round up the daemon-primarchs, Omegon tracks down the loyalist primarchs (They have had 10'000 years to find the lost, and heal the crippled Loyalist Primarchs) and they get the Wheels in motion for the 13th Black Crusade which they have been behind the whole time.  Their first step is the closing the Eye of the Warp, and trapping the bulk of Chaos' mortal forces from entering the Imperium.

The Seventh Serpent shows a divide between the brothers. Also, you seem o think that the Emperor did not know that there was twins... the most powerful psyker ever would have known, even if he didn't oversee the whole debacle of the primarchs being sent to specific chosen planets...

The Seventh Serpent shows a divide between the brothers. Also, you seem o think that the Emperor did not know that there was twins... the most powerful psyker ever would have known, even if he didn't oversee the whole debacle of the primarchs being sent to specific chosen planets...

Um he also made them and would've known there were two, not one. I mean none of the Primarchs landed as zygotic beings, they were all old enough to pull themselves out of the pods and smack stuff.

There was also a short story where it's shown that the legion can gene tamper legionaries so much so that even the legion apothecaries can't tell the difference between one and the primarch. Plus the fact that none of the other primarchs can tell the difference when they literally notice EVERYTHING, leads me to believe that there is only one. It'd be the ultimate lie. The rest of the imperium knows the truth, while the primarch has plausible deniability with not only his own legion (who can vouch for him) and to his enemies who might be spying on him. (ie: the cabal) it makes it almost impossible to gather real Intel on the legion when the members of the legion don't even have the truth.

Nah, Omegon will have "reward of treason: use any primarch's rules to represent this model".

 

Here's my basic head-cannon on the two characters. We have four accounts of what happened to the XXth Primarch after the scattering, or rather two linked pairs of accounts.

 

1. Found by Horus leading a confederation of systems, the rest is pop history.
2. Landed on dead world, until space pirates showed up, he commandeers their ship and goes off to explore the galaxy.
3. Landed on techocracy world but enslaved by Slaugh early in adolescence and put through Bond Villain Training School, until he is liberated, and then raised and tended to by Emperor
4. Left behind grievously injured, and was raised and tended to by the Emperor.

 

So we have two accounts placing him far from Terra, and two accounts placing him on it.

Alpharius lands on dead world, until a wondering gang of pirates shows up. He kills a bunch, takes over the ship, proceeds to consolidate nearby space pirates into a conglomerate alliance. Horus shows up and stuff happens. This brother is the fearful primarch, "bedecked in sinisterly ornate, hydra-chased battle plate and wielding a mighty double-headed spear. This is the brash Primarch that wants to prove his worth among his brothers, arguing with  Guilliman and Dorn, and pushing his Legion to "match any of its brothers in glory - or perhaps more accurately prove itself superior to them".  This is the Primarch who mainly leads the Lernaean elements of the Legion (terminators, breachers, dreadnoughts, etc.), whose tactics very closely emulate the shock & awe decapitation strikes of the Sons of Horus.

Omegon doesn't go far from Terra, is enslaved and tortured by Slaugh during adolescence, twisting him into a weapon of subterfuge and anarchy. He is rescued by Emperor, who takes the "greviously injured" Omegon back, raises and tends to him, and puts him in charge of the Ghost Legion. The discovery of Alpharius by Horus necessitates the rising of a new Legion, so the XXth, until now operating as a Ghost Legion, is converted into a crusading Legion. This is why they are "a Legion seemingly sprung whole and entire as if from nowhere, complete with tens of thousands of fully equipped Legionaries and a capable war fleet that operated with veteran skill." They already had all the senior officers and infrastructure in place, they just expanded their numbers. The duties of the Ghost Legion were inherited by the Costudes, Assassinorum and Sororitas Inconcessus.  I imagine this is the Primarch that skulks around in the shadows, who can pass for one of his Astartes (stunted growth from all the Slaugh-torture, you see), and who leads the Ifriit elements (all the stealthy specialists that do what the Ghost Legion did). Away from the influence of the Emperor, his Slaugh-manufactured obsession with convoluted schemes to bring civilizations to ruin slowly begins to taint the tactics of the Legion.

 

So there you go, we have one brother who is a conqueror and space pirate. Then we have the other brother, who is essentially Tyrion Lannister as the Hand.  What's interesting is that since Horus was also found pretty early (some sources put him as close as Luna) and also spent a lot of time with the Emperor, it's possible he met both Primarchs, and why he gave them so much leeway.  The real mind-twister is which one falls on which side of the schism.  Is the pirate the one who sides with the only Primarch to respect his martial skills, or is the spymaster who has the butt-hurt daddy issues of Angron and Horus combined that turns traitor (Angron was traumatized and turned into a killing machine, so the Emperor put him to killing; Omegon was traumatized and turned into a spying and murdering machine, so the Emperor put him to spying and murdering; with Horus, they both have the whole my daddy gave me a name, and then he walked away chip on their shoulder)?  Is it the damaged primarch who has seen the worst of humanity, and was raised by the Emperor, that sees the truth of the Cabal's words about humanity's inevitable downfall?  Is it the pirate who knows better than to trust a damn elf, and throws the Cabal's communication device out of an airlock?  Maybe they are actually both bad guys, and are just competing to see who can do the most crazy stuff. Omegon does it because he's twisted and can't help it, Alpharius does it because he' s a *%&ing space pirate.

 

Let's just say I've taken more than a few steps on the road to disappointment with the rumoured Alpha v. Omega book, because my hopes are sky high!

 

Oh yeah, one more thing, if one of the brothers did fall to Guilliman's blade, the other probably set him up. It would be so Alpha Legion to engage the Ultramarines in a series of skirmishes that drive home the point of how predictable the codex makes them, so Guilliman tries something new and surprises the other guy. Just as planned!

Terminus, now youve gone and raised my hopes too..biggrin.png.

Edit to get back on topic!

I dont think FW need to cover Omegon, he had rules in the TF pack but fielding 2 primarchs at once left you a leeeeeeeetle handicapped, even in larger games.

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