DominicJ Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 The original plan was to stormraven in a dread as a peak a boo surprise, but now it's going to be T1 podded. My choices are DCD Talons(?) (These seem overkill for shred) Flamers Grapple(?) Or Furiso Frag cannon Flamer The extra armour on the furioso drew me I've never really used dreads before, just the basic mm/pf Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302864-death-comp-dread-or-a-furiso/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaezus Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 What role do you have in mind? What is the rest of your build? Dropping one dread alone means that dread will die in turn two, pretty much guaranteed. So it needs to make its PV back. Fragioso can be great for shaking up the enemy's form and getting first blood. A DC dread needs to be used differently. It can't do too much on the turn it arrives so it needs to be dropped either in cover or behind LOS blocking terrain, and still threatening the enemy for turn two. You could always proxy your pod as a Lucius pod too, in either case. This would give shrouded so long as you either keep the model embarked or deployed on the ramps. If you,can drop the pod in ruins you might even get 2+ cover in the next turn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302864-death-comp-dread-or-a-furiso/#findComment-3937457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicJ Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 Two 6 man tacs with plasma gun in bolter backs Raven, AC / MM Lib, termie, 7 DC with a fist and jump packs in a crusader Vindicator Not sure from there, assault squads probably. Job is to draw attention, drop on a flank in to cover, nuke a squad and hopefully force a big redeploy, or draw a turns firepower Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302864-death-comp-dread-or-a-furiso/#findComment-3937463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaezus Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Either dread will draw attention and firepower, but the fragioso with its front AV13 would do this better and with a frag cannon, could do your first-turn nuke too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302864-death-comp-dread-or-a-furiso/#findComment-3937467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicJ Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 That sounds goof Thanks dude Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302864-death-comp-dread-or-a-furiso/#findComment-3937470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brit Viper Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 If its a choice between purely hand to hand dreads then take the furioso over the DC one if your fighting marines. If its hordes then the DC comes out better. But Frag cannon Dreads rock, for up close blasting action straight out of a pod. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302864-death-comp-dread-or-a-furiso/#findComment-3937496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicJ Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 Over watching a frag cannon. 1d3 or 2d3 I guess 1d3 but figured I should check Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302864-death-comp-dread-or-a-furiso/#findComment-3937515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastellanDeMolay Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Overwatch is 1D3 for each weapon, so RAW it's 1D3 for the Frag Cannon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302864-death-comp-dread-or-a-furiso/#findComment-3937533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Lib, termie, 7 DC with a fist and jump packs in a crusaderJump units cannot embark in a transport unless the transport explicitly allows it, like the stormraven. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302864-death-comp-dread-or-a-furiso/#findComment-3937538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicJ Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 Grrr Oh well Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302864-death-comp-dread-or-a-furiso/#findComment-3937563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicJ Posted February 12, 2015 Author Share Posted February 12, 2015 I love this dread Good god he is in trouble if he gets locked in combat, but so much template power! Get him in the back lines and he's just a monster, so much shooty and his claw is a nice spot of tank poppy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302864-death-comp-dread-or-a-furiso/#findComment-3949144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 For my Pod Dread, I am running a Fragioso with a melta gun. The extra armour and better firepower suit a Drop pod better. I am also running a DC Dread who will piggy-back in on the Storm Raven with a cheap squad of CCW scouts. His CC orientation suit being deployed from an Assault vehicle so he can gt stuck in straight away. The Melta gun may seem an odd choice for a Fragioso but it actually makes good sense in 7th Ed. The Heavy flamer and Frag cannon are resolved separately, by the time the Frag cannon is done, chances are there may not be much left to flame. Adding a melta gun makes the Fragioso more effective against vehicles too. A melta shot plus 2 automatic S6 Rending hits make it pretty effective against light-to-medium armour. Also, if you are facing infantry with a 3+ or better save, a heavy flamer is unlikely to kill more models than a melta gun, especially after the frag cannon has fired. For the DC Dread, I am planning to run Cassor so I have a Troop tax covered. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302864-death-comp-dread-or-a-furiso/#findComment-3949530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Gunzhard Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 If you stick to your original StormRaven plan, you could Skies of Blood drop a Fragioso without mishap (magna-grapple) and do some roasting that way... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302864-death-comp-dread-or-a-furiso/#findComment-3950022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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