Token Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Cyclone missile launcher still only lets you fire 2 weapons if they are CML and a storm bolter? No combi melta or such? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303010-still-no-firing-combi-weapons-and-cyclone-missile-launcher/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanPesci Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Not sure what the question is here. TDA gives you relentless, so you can fire multiple weapons. So if you are armed with a CML and stormbolter you can fire both or if you are armed with a CML and a combi-weapon you can fire both (but only fire one mode of the combi weapon). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303010-still-no-firing-combi-weapons-and-cyclone-missile-launcher/#findComment-3940225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Token Posted February 4, 2015 Author Share Posted February 4, 2015 Ah, ok, thanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303010-still-no-firing-combi-weapons-and-cyclone-missile-launcher/#findComment-3940229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ania Redfang Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Relentless doesn't allow you to fire two weapons in the same turn. In the rules for Cyclone Missile Launcher it says you can fire the missles and a storm bolter, it doesn't mention combi-weapons so I'd say you can't. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303010-still-no-firing-combi-weapons-and-cyclone-missile-launcher/#findComment-3940241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanPesci Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Waaaaahh really?? Ive been playing that wrong for a while then if thats the case! need my codex/brb! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303010-still-no-firing-combi-weapons-and-cyclone-missile-launcher/#findComment-3940245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasterfree Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 if you replaced the storm bolter for a combi why couldnt you fire it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303010-still-no-firing-combi-weapons-and-cyclone-missile-launcher/#findComment-3940294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yust Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 A Storm bolter is a combibolter bolter+bolter right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303010-still-no-firing-combi-weapons-and-cyclone-missile-launcher/#findComment-3940363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 No, a Combi-Bolter is a twin-linked bolter. Chaos use those instead of Stormbolters. A Combi-Melta is a 1-shot Melta + a Bolter, not a Stormbolter. The Stormbolter is replaced. So no, no firing combi-weapons + CML. Only SB + CML. Go figure. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303010-still-no-firing-combi-weapons-and-cyclone-missile-launcher/#findComment-3940389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baulder Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 most likely an oversight Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303010-still-no-firing-combi-weapons-and-cyclone-missile-launcher/#findComment-3940424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasterfree Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 this is one of those things that i will not argue either way. i understand RAW, but lets be real for a minute.... and TBH, i dont even have any CMLs anyway :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303010-still-no-firing-combi-weapons-and-cyclone-missile-launcher/#findComment-3940480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 It's probably not an oversight, as the CML has had that same rule for as long as I can remember. A model with a CML can also fire a Storm Bolter in the same turn, which is an exception to the usual rules. A Combi-weapon, of any type, is not a Storm Bolter. Ergo, you can't fire a CML and Combi-weapon in the same turn, and must pick which you're going to use when you shoot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303010-still-no-firing-combi-weapons-and-cyclone-missile-launcher/#findComment-3941084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Bearclaw Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 I dunno, I can easily see it being an oversight (though I agree RAW is pretty clear). Maybe it's just my low opinion of GW's editing and proofreading services, but it sounds entirely plausible to me they just pasted the CML rules in from C:SM, and it didn't twig for them that this could be an issue, as we're the only Marines that can combine combis and CMLs on the same model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303010-still-no-firing-combi-weapons-and-cyclone-missile-launcher/#findComment-3941124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanPesci Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Aye fair enough if thats how its written, have never played it that way. RAW ill it storm bolters only from now on...but come on...if the terminator can fire a storm bolter whilst launching missles, im pretty sure he could manage a combi weapon...especially if only firing the boltgun part of it :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303010-still-no-firing-combi-weapons-and-cyclone-missile-launcher/#findComment-3941376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FenrisWolf Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Not an oversight. If you want a reason, the storm bolter is an assault weapon, whereas the bolter is not (and only the plasma would not be an assault for the combi, I know). Somewhere in the brb it makes mention of assault not needing to be aimed precisely. So I'd say the rule for allowing storm bolsters and not combi weapons is simplicity since the bolter or the plasma would not be assault. A weak argument, but one that uses just the printed material. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303010-still-no-firing-combi-weapons-and-cyclone-missile-launcher/#findComment-3941462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune_Priest_Rhapsody Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 This is why all 4 of my TDAWG have CML's and SB's. Makes for not having to deal with this kind of back and forth. End of Line Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303010-still-no-firing-combi-weapons-and-cyclone-missile-launcher/#findComment-3941464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasterfree Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 plasma isnt assault either its rapid fire. you are thinking combi melta Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303010-still-no-firing-combi-weapons-and-cyclone-missile-launcher/#findComment-3941519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FenrisWolf Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 plasma isnt assault either its rapid fire. you are thinking combi melta Yep. Said that, Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303010-still-no-firing-combi-weapons-and-cyclone-missile-launcher/#findComment-3941608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasterfree Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Hard reading is Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303010-still-no-firing-combi-weapons-and-cyclone-missile-launcher/#findComment-3941670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FenrisWolf Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303010-still-no-firing-combi-weapons-and-cyclone-missile-launcher/#findComment-3941848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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