Could Red Scorpions be around during the Heresy?

[Emperor's Furor]

I was thinking of combining some of the forgeworld Red Scorpion bits with heresy era equipment and was wondering whether they could of been around during the Heresy? I figured they may of been an Ultramarine Company at the time, similar to how the Novamarines, Doom Eagles and other characters have shown up within the Ultramarine ranks, but afaik their founding isn't stated and they ain't based out of the ultima system, but they do treat the codex as religious scripture and have access to high amounts of Mk IV armour and the ability to maintain them.

[Atia]

i think it was believed that the Red Scorpions were either Emperors Children (one of the purest gene-seeds, many Apothecaries) or Alpha Legion (the Cabal states that the AL were the "only Legion without taint") loyalists.

[BFeeder]

I'd say go for it.

 

Lore-wise, the Red Scorpions' current Fortress Monastery within the Ordon Rift region of Segmetum Tempestus was founded in M39. So given their previous disposition as a fleet-based chapter, they could have quite easily originated elsewhere (i.e. neighbouring Ultima Segmentum).

 

It's probably worth noting that only XIII Legion Captains were allowed to alter their heraldry and colour-scheme, so would be the only one able to wear the charcoal/yellow armour. His subordinates could still have the Scorpion shoulder pad as a company mark or distinction, but their armour would have to be more or less synonymous with the usual Ultramarine panoply.

 

Of course, it's your army. So at the end of the day, you can damn well do whatever you like!

[Atia]

It's probably worth noting that only XIII Legion Captains were allowed to alter their heraldry and colour-scheme,

that's not entirely true anymore, as atleast the Imperial Fists' and Iron Hands' had also different schemes/heraldries for some of their companies (Raln's Company, Autek Mor's company) ... and the Alpha Legion ... they do whatever they want to do

Edit: yeah, read it twice

[Iron Hands Fanatic]

....I think BFeeder meant in Ultramarines Companies, only the Captains were allowed to alter their colour schemes to a greater extent, whilst the other members of the company had to maintain the normal colour scheme - although with slight iconography deviations; rather than just the XIII being allowed to have a range of schemes.

Although I almost posted exactly the same thing as you Atia, before I read it a second time

[Emperor's Furor]

No problem, I just got some of the honour guard sheaths for a conversion and noticed they had the red scorpion symbol on it and it got me thinking. Probably better to keep my force symbol rather than over complicate it.

[Ordo Machinum]

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I would say go for it for many of the reasons given above.

 

I once considered using the Red Scorpion & Minotaur FW pads for the "Lost & Forgotten" II and XI Legions.

[Daemon2027]

I thought Red Scorpians could be Word Bearer geneseed. They are sort of very zealous.

[Jareddm]

After reading about the latent geneseed manipulation the Dark Eldar performed on the Raven Guard, I no longer have any belief that the Red Scorpions are traitor geneseed. Instead I believe some time in the past they were either threatened by, or victims of a similar genetic attack and are now extremely fearful of that attack's effects relapsing centuries or even millennia later, despite all genetic evidence to the contrary.

But that's just me not being a fan of every single chapter's history being tied to the Heresy. If I had to choose a Heresy-era history, a unique company heraldry of the Ultramarines would be my first choice.