Emperor's Furor Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 I recently sprayed some models using a grey car spray, but I think I put it on to much and the outcome has been pretty grainy is there anyway to rectify it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303034-mistake-during-spraying/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovemberIX Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Wet sand with 3000 grit sand paper might work, if the primer pilled up (and you were using Duplicolor) some light handling will smooth it out soon enough. Honestly though, I prefer a bit of texture on my models so your mileage may vary. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303034-mistake-during-spraying/#findComment-3940552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacinda Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Fairy Power Spray and an old toothbrush. Really, fresh paint strips easy. No sense struggling with a poor first coat or putting more time and effort into a model that you will probably never be happy with. I've been there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303034-mistake-during-spraying/#findComment-3940610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted February 4, 2015 Author Share Posted February 4, 2015 They're resin models and it's not so much it piled up it's just that the spray itself is not smooth and pretty grainy, whilst normally when you spray using GW spray paints you get a smooth texture afterwards, with this you can really feel the difference.I tried to paint one and it just wasn't right. I was considering going over the grey with a black spray but wasn't sure whether it would fix the problem. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303034-mistake-during-spraying/#findComment-3940720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Newton Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Yeah strip and clean as quickly as possible is the best bet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303034-mistake-during-spraying/#findComment-3940723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stercus Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Did you get the spray in halfords? I've always found their grey primer to be excellent. I'd guess the excessive graininess is down to the atmospheric conditions. Might be a humidity problem or the temperature is too low. I'd also recommend stripping them and starting again. Any unwanted texture will be amplified by each extra layer of paint. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303034-mistake-during-spraying/#findComment-3940776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted February 4, 2015 Author Share Posted February 4, 2015 Did you get the spray in halfords? I've always found their grey primer to be excellent. I'd guess the excessive graininess is down to the atmospheric conditions. Might be a humidity problem or the temperature is too low. I'd also recommend stripping them and starting again. Any unwanted texture will be amplified by each extra layer of paint. Yeah it's Halford spray, in the silver can. I did it at night out the back door, so maybe to cold I guess. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303034-mistake-during-spraying/#findComment-3940913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stercus Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Yeah, I've got about a dozen models and a tank waiting to be sprayed, but with this weather I've been putting it off. Too cold and the paint starts to dry before it hits the model, so you can get it failing to stick or going sort of 'bobbly'. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303034-mistake-during-spraying/#findComment-3940942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaedes Nex Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 They're resin models and it's not so much it piled up it's just that the spray itself is not smooth and pretty grainy, whilst normally when you spray using GW spray paints you get a smooth texture afterwards, with this you can really feel the difference.I tried to paint one and it just wasn't right. I was considering going over the grey with a black spray but wasn't sure whether it would fix the problem. Smooth spray is actually worse than grainy spray. If it feels grainy to the touch but looks smooth to the eye, this is actually the ideal way primer should behave. If it LOOKS grainy, that's bad. GW is smooth because it's not a real primer, and it has no tooth or adherence properties. The only time real acrylic primer is smooth is when you overspray and it pools and becomes a smooth candy shell, which can potentially obscure or lessen details. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303034-mistake-during-spraying/#findComment-3941023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
appiah4 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 It *is* supposed to have some texture it's a primer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303034-mistake-during-spraying/#findComment-3941093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted February 5, 2015 Author Share Posted February 5, 2015 Yeah I think the way it's come out atm is overly textured. Way more than the roughness the ideal outcome of GW spray can come out. It doesn't look good and some of the detail on the models (Solar Auxilia) suffers from it, I've had to strip one model I tried to paint it looked really bad. Going to take a tooth brush and IPA to them and gently remove the spray I guess. On another note I was wondering if you could give me some advice on air brushing, I've just ordered one and was wondering whether I need to water the citadel paint down (Mephiston red in this case). I'll be putting it over an undercoat of black spray. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303034-mistake-during-spraying/#findComment-3941381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaedes Nex Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Yes, Citadel and most other paints MUST be thinned in an airbrush, and quite a bit more than most painters usually thin when using a regular brush. The only paints that don't are specifically labeled and marketed as pre-thinned ready for airbrush use. Such brands include Vallejo Model Air, Vallejo Game Air, and Badger Minitaire. The air pressure you will need is probably around 10-15 PSI which seems to be pretty standard. But this is pretty low flow and I suspect the painters that use this are highly advanced competition painters, same with people who thin paints with a 5:1 ratio or greater when brushing normally. They need to get dozens and dozens of super thin layers. You can thin the paint less and use like 20 PSI or even as high as 35 or 40. But Vallejo Model Air only requires 15 PSI. Any lower or higher and you start getting spatter and clogs and things of that nature, but you can use this for blood spray, mud spatter, and other effects. If you own an airbrush you can pretty much get rid of spraypaint cans altogether, but having a can or to around can be useful. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303034-mistake-during-spraying/#findComment-3941663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted February 5, 2015 Author Share Posted February 5, 2015 It's this one I'm getting off ebay. http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzY4WDEwMjQ=/z/9qcAAMXQIBBRCpoQ/$T2eC16h,!ykE9s7tyfLeBRCpoQQefg~~60_57.JPG Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303034-mistake-during-spraying/#findComment-3941695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rik Lightstar Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 It's this one I'm getting off ebay. http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzY4WDEwMjQ=/z/9qcAAMXQIBBRCpoQ/$T2eC16h,!ykE9s7tyfLeBRCpoQQefg~~60_57.JPG If you haven't already ordered this, then STOP! Save yourself some money and heartache, get a compressor with a tank and a BRAND NAME* Airbrush. Specifically H&S, Badger, Iwata or Paasche, there may be some others out there but these are the big names. Wayland games are now doing a bundle of an Iwata airbrush, with a compressor and a guide on usage for miniature painting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303034-mistake-during-spraying/#findComment-3948822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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