Ulrik_Ironfist Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 I don't like to use named characters, because it feels like it somehow detracts from my skill. Does anyone else feel this way? Also, does it feel like GW is trying to force us to use the Special Characters? I like the formations, and I really want to use them but I have that bias against special characters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303135-named-characters-or-not/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkalleone Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Btw not to offend but you are a named Character^^. And... No, i dont think so. The Only Named Characters i think wothy of SW are Bjorn, Ulrik , Harald and Arjac. I dont know about Njal but he seems to be good. You are in no way forced to play a named character cause all Characters in the SW book have a standart equivalent that does the same but worse and cheaper. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303135-named-characters-or-not/#findComment-3942520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vykryl Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 They just want you to buy the expensive models ;) I don't find Krom or Ragnar that great. Don't like the look of Canis. Not sure about Herald. These for don't fit any where in my army any way. I have a Wolf Priest I can use as Ulrik. Thinking of making my own Njal and Logan. I have characters that could use their rules in my story. Arjac, I don't have a character that would use his rules. If Lucas could take a jump pack I would use him as I have a character that fits his role. Bjorn I will do at some point, though I may give him a different name. I have a Dread I will use for Murderfang once I get a right arm for it, he will get a different name as well. The short bit is that if they fit a character in my army and help tell my story I will use them. I don't think any of them are I win buttons so see no problem using them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303135-named-characters-or-not/#findComment-3942545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkalleone Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 As for Buying the Model: Just Build your own ones. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303135-named-characters-or-not/#findComment-3942566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik_Ironfist Posted February 6, 2015 Author Share Posted February 6, 2015 I meant the special characters like Bjorn and Ulrik the Slayer. As far as GW trying to force the use of the special characters, most formations require the use of one or more of them, and I find that kind of disappointing. I just don't see why they can't make the formations more generic. Although I suppose I could house rule it so that a generic HQ character can take the place of the Special character. Or I can suck it up and deal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303135-named-characters-or-not/#findComment-3942576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vykryl Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 I was going on the detract from player skill bit of your post. Some of the characters have interesting extras but nothing game breaking to me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303135-named-characters-or-not/#findComment-3942596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatSmasher Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 I find Ulric and Harald are useful force multipliers for the types of lists SW players should be running. I wish there was even more variety through unique characters, or select-able sagas like in the old days Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303135-named-characters-or-not/#findComment-3942598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 I don't like to use named characters, because it feels like it somehow detracts from my skill. Does anyone else feel this way? Also, does it feel like GW is trying to force us to use the Special Characters? I like the formations, and I really want to use them but I have that bias against special characters. Surely it takes more skill to use a character with unchangeable wargear and options than to take a generic character that you can tailor to suit your own needs? What detracts from your skill is needlessly crippling yourself in games by artificially limiting the weapons in your armoury. That said, it's your game, and if you dont like using existing characters, then dont. If you follow your line of thinking to the logical end point, why are you using characters at all? Take an unbound army of nothing but dreadnoughts. If you can win with that, then you'd really be showing your skill! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303135-named-characters-or-not/#findComment-3942628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik_Ironfist Posted February 6, 2015 Author Share Posted February 6, 2015 I've had people complain about characters before, mostly farsight, so I limit myself because I don't want to hear complaining. Also, If I'm taking those characters, it's only fair that the opponent take his own, but that soon snowballs. Arjac I like, because I can't make a WGBL as good as he is, and he's unique. Logan Grimnar's rules would be fun to use for my wolf lord, and then I take a generic lord as my Battle leader, and that lets me pack in the rune priests and wolf priests, since logan now occupies a different slot. I guess I can use the rules for a character in my lore. I'd never really thought about it that way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303135-named-characters-or-not/#findComment-3942727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
temneb Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 I think a Tau Farsight army is significantly different to the characters in the 7th ed SW codex. I wouldn't worry to much those two senarios don't compare. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303135-named-characters-or-not/#findComment-3942996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik_Ironfist Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 I've also had to deal with having the lords of the black crusade thrown at me, which was incredibly annoying (couldn't tell if my opponent was just making crap up or not). I remember a time when you had to take named characters (black templars I'm looking at you). I used to use farsight all the time, because he's not really broken. I can make a broken commander for about the same points. I don't know if it was just my last meta that just hated them or what, I just feel it eliminates griping. Maybe that's just the powergaming cheeseweasels that gripe when they get spanked, but i heard it a lot... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303135-named-characters-or-not/#findComment-3943737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatSmasher Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 The tau commander and Farsight Enclaves issue is only somewhat tied to the "named character" topic that you've brought up here, IMO Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303135-named-characters-or-not/#findComment-3943759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik_Ironfist Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 Agreed. I have yet to try all of the named characters I have, I still have Logan Grimnar to try, as well as Ulrik, and Lukas. I've kinda started warmachine which requires named special characters to function. I also came from Battletech, where there are no named special characters on the tabletop. I like Bjorn, Murderfang, and Arjac. Logan and Ulrik look good on paper, And Lukas is a Troll. I was going to make my own Njal out of one of my two librarians, and I still need an Iron Priest, Which I will probably make out of one of my leftover characters. Using one of the suggestions from above, I'll use the rules and models, done my way to reflect the characters from the Lore I crafted for my company. I'll try it that way to see if I like it, and if that helps me get over this dislike, Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303135-named-characters-or-not/#findComment-3945757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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