Emperor's Furor Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 According to their beliefs the White Scars don't use Dreadnoughts as they believe a warrior's spirit should be set free upon death. However it got me thinking, surely they must have some Dreadnoughts around from the time before they were reunited with the Khan. The World Eaters still had Dreadnoughts from the time of the War Hounds but that might be because they'd only recently changed (not sure on this) Does anyone know when the Khan was found, do you think they may still have some Terran dreads? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303148-white-scars-dreadnoughts/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 That is of course unless the khan decided to pull the plug on all the dreads >_> Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303148-white-scars-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3942805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praefectus Invictus Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 The 40k fuff says that a White Scar will only be interred within a dreadnought if there skills are still needed, or times are dire. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303148-white-scars-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3942806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 You could justify it by saying the interred was a famed centurion/consul/captain/whatever for X/Y/Z/etc. Action(s). Just can't really have it be some lucky marine who happened to survive a Plasma Cannon Blast to the chest. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303148-white-scars-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3942808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 With FWs fetish for Contemptors I'm sure we'll see WS Dreadnoughts :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303148-white-scars-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3942961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostmourne Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Yeah agreed, FW will probably make a WS Contemptor. And when that day comes you can say it was a Legion Praetor from yesteryear or something. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303148-white-scars-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3943022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 This thread only makes me wonder about what Vth Legion terrans were. Terrans are the reason why I want the next books to be released already. Cognomens, mustering grounds during the Unification Wars, Solar Compliance battles.... But that's diverging from the original topic. About which I think the Fifth had dreadnoughts, noticeably less numerous than other legions, and in which were interred only worth brethren, but still a decent number of them. I'd say about 20% of what would be considered "average", but then I don't know how many dreads there were in any legion at the time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303148-white-scars-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3943038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Hawk Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Skalpynock- have you read Scars? Because it deals with that a little bit, I beleive. It really is just a couple of throwaway lines though. Back on topic, I imagine many White Scars Dreadnoughts wereTerrans, who predated the reunion with Jagatai, but didn't appreciate having the plug pulled on their life support and had a good deal of experience which they could contribute to the legion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303148-white-scars-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3944640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relict Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I doubt the Khan would have pulled the plug on the existing Dreadnoughts when he was reunited with his Legion. Remember - "I let them meet. I am not a tyrant." He permitted the Warrior Lodges - I doubt he would have begrudged a few worthy Terran veterans who wished to serve him beyond the point of death. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303148-white-scars-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3944823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 There will always be that need for them somewhere; particularly in their role as vanguard when they can be used as a mobile reserve launched from low orbit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303148-white-scars-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3944842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelPaladin Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Wasn't there some throwaway line about internment being a punishment for those who failed in the line of duty? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303148-white-scars-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3944895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Wasn't there some throwaway line about internment being a punishment for those who failed in the line of duty? Wouldn't that be the IH Immortals you're thinking of? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303148-white-scars-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3944919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Wasn't there some throwaway line about internment being a punishment for those who failed in the line of duty? Wouldn't that be the IH Immortals you're thinking of? That would kinda be the opposite of the Xth Legion's MO - they venerate their Dreads massively, so interring those who failed wouldn't really work :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303148-white-scars-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3944940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Venerable Terran Dreadnoughts and a few subsequent Chogorian Dreadnoughts (very rare)...that sounds about right. Perhaps a 40K Dreadnought by the name of Torgun? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303148-white-scars-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3945015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelPaladin Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Wasn't there some throwaway line about internment being a punishment for those who failed in the line of duty? Wouldn't that be the IH Immortals you're thinking of? No, it was the White Scars, not the X. Maybe it was a fan theory or something. But really, it sounds perfect. What could be a better punishment for someone who only wants to ride free than eternal confinement? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303148-white-scars-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3945429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 Something related to White Scars and punishment in Sedition's Gate. In one of the stories from Sedition's Gate, we see how the White Scars punish those who have wronged them. There's two outcomes for those who betrayed the Legion, either they "repent" and voluntary to become the outriders of the White Scars i.e they pretty much end up going on missions where there's a high probability they will die or they don't and accept execution Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303148-white-scars-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3945434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_son_of_Dorn Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 http://media.moddb.com/images/groups/1/3/2055/b81fc10b786c4ed6378caaa41759a07d.jpg They see me rollin.......they hattin!!!! But seriously, I like the idea of there being a 'dammed' or 'condemned' element to the white scars chapter, Basically white scars who have really dropped the ball and the only penance available to them to redeem themselves is to become the exact opposite of what their chapter would consider worth and honorable fighting styles. Basically giant examples of what is to fail, reminders of the gifts of speed and versatility, war machines that to them are rightfully left behind to share in none of the glory, a respective last resort of sorts where extreme brute force is required only to be carried out by those deemed unfit for the glory of their way of combat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303148-white-scars-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3945440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deus Imperator Vult Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 There is a lore precedent for the Khan keeping them alive, even if he refused to add to their numbers. While Chigorisians (think I got that right) "will not be caged." I also seem to recall a couple of lines here and there in Hunt for Voldorious or perhaps a short story in one of the compilations about them venerating their elders, respecting the wisdom and learning from battles past and so on. If that's also their tradition I cannot see Jhagatai 'pulling the plug' when he took the reins of the legion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303148-white-scars-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3946102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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