TopToffee Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Evening brothers What is everyone's opinions on paint schemes when taking allies (specifically other SM allies) For example, can you envision anyone having an issue (particularly in a competitive environment) with a unit of Centurions being taken as allies, and painted up in SW colours? I can't see how it would make a huge difference, but not having been involved in a tournament setting, I don't know how pedantic people can get. Cheers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303254-opinions-on-allies-and-paint-schemes/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarog Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 I'd imagine they get very pedantic lol. Personally I think anyone who has an issue with how you paint them is an idiot. Its your army, you bought them, you can paint them however you like. And if anyone tried to tell me otherwise I'd probably dread sock them (metal dreadnaught in a sock swung around ones head to strike a foe). Anyway back to it, as long as you clearly show they are allied and well within the rules and boundaries then there really shouldn't be an issue. Again, I've never been in a big tournament sooooo .... Can't speak from that perspective. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303254-opinions-on-allies-and-paint-schemes/#findComment-3945599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkalleone Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 You have to take a leeway. I think Nobody will have an Issue if you Paint your Cents exactly like the Rest of the SW since its clear they are different. But if you for example ally White Scars , BA or similar with overlapping units you should (for you and your opponent sake) paint the Shoulderpads/Helmets in a Unique color. Making them be part of the Army but at the same time easely noticeable. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303254-opinions-on-allies-and-paint-schemes/#findComment-3945603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoic Raptor Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Competitive players are known for being pedantic - so hit them with the one thing they cannot resist... the Rules. The rules allow you to take allied Space Marines, and there's nothing in the rules that says how you have to paint them (unless they're Ultramarines ). I have never liked running allies - it always seemed to me a cheesy way of working around the limitations of one's Codex. I can't imagine ever allying my Space Wolves with any Xenos or Chaos force, even Come The Apocalypse. But every now and then I look over some cool models like the Ironclad and especially the Centurions and wish I could have them in my SW army. This topic has given me a new way of looking at the matter - now I realize I can paint them up in SW colors as a Chapter of my own design and use them alongside my Wolves. Thanks - now I've just added hundreds of dollars to my long-term plan of acquisitions. Great. Don't tell my wife. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303254-opinions-on-allies-and-paint-schemes/#findComment-3945754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik_Ironfist Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 My storm wing will be in SW colors, as well as any allies I take (grey knights come to mind, because daemons...) will also be in SW colors. Mostly because i intend for my allies to stand in for units, or just because I like the way they look. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303254-opinions-on-allies-and-paint-schemes/#findComment-3948176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Suggestion: when you use a different codex (or even, for that matter, a different detachment type) within a single army, you could differentiate them by painting them as different great companies. E.g. I paint my TWC and most of my terminators (plus their transports etc) as Champions of Fenris. My grey hunters and blood claws will be mostly Bloodmaws. That way when I mix company of the great wolf with combined arms, I have a visual cue to make things easier. I'd consider doing something similar with allied marines. Another option though: revel in the difference. Choose a second chapter and make your C:SM detachment come from that one. It might give you more options in the future. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303254-opinions-on-allies-and-paint-schemes/#findComment-3948195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joasht Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I asked this question some time ago on the general forum, because I noticed some onlookers of my game were hostile towards this, even though I was very clear about my intent. I guess no matter what happens some will still not be pleased. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303254-opinions-on-allies-and-paint-schemes/#findComment-3948244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Guard Dan Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 You can't please everyone. Paint your stuff however you want because there is no rule stating that you have to have your allies painted differently. You should point out which units are which though. And then it is their job to remember. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303254-opinions-on-allies-and-paint-schemes/#findComment-3948340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 If they are representing one army, they are being painted the same. No one ever had issues with it. If anyone has, he can talk to the complaints department. That's my fist, by the way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303254-opinions-on-allies-and-paint-schemes/#findComment-3948457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik_Ironfist Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Reminds me of a piece I kept on my desk. It was a dummy grenade with a number on the pin and a sign that read: "Complaint department, take a number". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303254-opinions-on-allies-and-paint-schemes/#findComment-3948935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Reminds me of a piece I kept on my desk. It was a dummy grenade with a number on the pin and a sign that read: "Complaint department, take a number". I want one :O Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303254-opinions-on-allies-and-paint-schemes/#findComment-3949462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 If they are representing one army, they are being painted the same. No one ever had issues with it. If anyone has, he can talk to the complaints department. That's my fist, by the way.Nice bastardization of one of Bludflagg's quotes. Have a noice 'at. Suggestion: when you use a different codex (or even, for that matter, a different detachment type) within a single army, you could differentiate them by painting them as different great companies.If you don't want to do that, you could also paint the rims of the bases in different colors. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303254-opinions-on-allies-and-paint-schemes/#findComment-3949640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 I'm currently looking into using Champions of Fenris to represent my Blood Angels first company. I'll paint them the same as the rest of my force and if my opponent moans I will stare them down then proceed to invoke the Black Rage with the Emperors holy Dread Sock (S+2, AP -, Concussive, Rending) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303254-opinions-on-allies-and-paint-schemes/#findComment-3949711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Isn't the dreadsock a daemon weapon, since it contains a metal chaos dreadnought? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303254-opinions-on-allies-and-paint-schemes/#findComment-3949735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastHuzzah Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 There are plenty of non-chaos metal dreadnoughts I have somewhere around 4, 2 Bjorn, 2 standard. It allows me to make the deadly quadreadsock. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303254-opinions-on-allies-and-paint-schemes/#findComment-3949752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik_Ironfist Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Reminds me of a piece I kept on my desk. It was a dummy grenade with a number on the pin and a sign that read: "Complaint department, take a number". I want one I made it. M67 dummy frag grenades are plentiful on the surplus market stateside. Don't know how easy it is to get one in Germany though... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303254-opinions-on-allies-and-paint-schemes/#findComment-3950272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Guess it is time to hit up ebay some time soon ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303254-opinions-on-allies-and-paint-schemes/#findComment-3950297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 There are plenty of non-chaos metal dreadnoughts I have somewhere around 4, 2 Bjorn, 2 standard. It allows me to make the deadly quadreadsock. But are they as ugly as the old chaos dread, so that you have no other use for them? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303254-opinions-on-allies-and-paint-schemes/#findComment-3950343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastHuzzah Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 If the God - emperor didn't want us to swing dreadnoughts in socks, he wouldn't have given us varnish. Also, yes the old Bjorn still holds up pretty well, not so much the old vanilla dread. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303254-opinions-on-allies-and-paint-schemes/#findComment-3950447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune_Priest_Rhapsody Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 There are plenty of non-chaos metal dreadnoughts I have somewhere around 4, 2 Bjorn, 2 standard. It allows me to make the deadly quadreadsock. But are they as ugly as the old chaos dread, so that you have no other use for them? Are you implying the new chaos 'dread' is good looking??!! 0.0 I have seen a couple very cool looking Centurion/SW conversions on the interwebs. Cool enough to make me actually consider actually buying a kit and having at it!! And that's saying a lot as I, like Ulfgrim never cared for allies which I am certain some of you already know. End of Line Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303254-opinions-on-allies-and-paint-schemes/#findComment-3950492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skallagoose Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 to get back to the original post; I play a darker space wolves color- its Mechanicus Grey with gold trim. I wrote my own fluff for it as a lost great company that returns (the Draugr). I try to use stuff from SM and SW to bolster my force. Honestly if someone doesn't like your painting or story arch- then they aren't the kind of people you want to play against. Use what you want (within the rules) and don't get stuck with one thing. Expand and have fun with it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303254-opinions-on-allies-and-paint-schemes/#findComment-3950496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 There are plenty of non-chaos metal dreadnoughts I have somewhere around 4, 2 Bjorn, 2 standard. It allows me to make the deadly quadreadsock. But are they as ugly as the old chaos dread, so that you have no other use for them? Are you implying the new chaos 'dread' is good looking??!! 0.0 Too much flesh for Iron Warriors or Nightlords IMHO, but otherwise it looks fine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303254-opinions-on-allies-and-paint-schemes/#findComment-3950497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik_Ironfist Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Even I have an old metal Bjorn, for which to employ as a dreadsock. It's also handy to have a second bjorn so I can run 7 other dreads. Also he's kind of collectable and nostalgic, so I like him. As for allies though, It's a good way to get those C:SM toys that we're lacking, and especially in the case of flyers and centurions, having them lack our special rules is fine, since they're very specialized units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303254-opinions-on-allies-and-paint-schemes/#findComment-3950499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoyo ninja Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Its your army, you bought them, you can paint them however you like. And if anyone tried to tell me otherwise I'd probably dread sock them (metal dreadnaught in a sock swung around ones head to strike a foe). It now has a name!haha. Next time someone gets dread socked I think we need some pictures!haha. To the OP, paint your army how ever you please, it's your hobby. Haters gona hate no matter what. Personally I find painting different colour schemes breaks up the tedium of grey armour but that's just me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303254-opinions-on-allies-and-paint-schemes/#findComment-3951638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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