sn33r Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Do we have to swap the tactical objectives for the ones in the codex? I hope not cos there poop. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303262-tactical-objectives/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadir Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 We have our own tactical objectives, but you don't have to use them if you wish not to. So it's your choice, but it would be good to ask your opponent. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303262-tactical-objectives/#findComment-3945772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucien Eilam Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 We have our own tactical objectives, but you don't have to use them if you wish not to. Nope: If your Warlord has the Space Wolves Faction, these Tactical Objectives replace the Capture & Control Tactical Objectives (numbers 11-16) described in Warhammer 40,000: The Rules. No choice, you have to use them if your Warlord is a Space Wolf. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303262-tactical-objectives/#findComment-3945814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Warlord has nothing to do with it. Primary Detachment is the deciding factor. Otherwise I could say that SW are my Primary, but my Warlord is either an Assassin or INQ from the Inquisitorial detachment and use the generic 11-16. Having said that, it ain't all that bad. 4/6 are very manageable. And if playing against a 6ed codex, you have an advantage when playing mission number 4 ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303262-tactical-objectives/#findComment-3945817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucien Eilam Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Warlord has nothing to do with it. Primary Detachment is the deciding factor. Otherwise I could say that SW are my Primary, but my Warlord is either an Assassin or INQ from the Inquisitorial detachment and use the generic 11-16. Dude, are you drinking tonight? :lol: 1) I quoted the actual rule. Warlord has everything to do with it. 2) Your Primary Detachment is the one that has your Warlord in (or everything that has the same Faction as your Warlord if you're Unbound). If your Warlord is an Assassin, your Primary Detachment is an Officio Assassinorum Detachment and you will be using the generic objectives. If you organise your army using the Battle-forged method, whichever Detachment contains your Warlord is your Primary Detachment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303262-tactical-objectives/#findComment-3945824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangbanger Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 I can't see anyone really caring if you do or you don't Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303262-tactical-objectives/#findComment-3945848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Warlord has nothing to do with it. Primary Detachment is the deciding factor. Otherwise I could say that SW are my Primary, but my Warlord is either an Assassin or INQ from the Inquisitorial detachment and use the generic 11-16. Dude, are you drinking tonight? 1) I quoted the actual rule. Warlord has everything to do with it. 2) Your Primary Detachment is the one that has your Warlord in (or everything that has the same Faction as your Warlord if you're Unbound). If your Warlord is an Assassin, your Primary Detachment is an Officio Assassinorum Detachment and you will be using the generic objectives. If you organise your army using the Battle-forged method, whichever Detachment contains your Warlord is your Primary Detachment. Right, brainfart :D Been doing too much Ork list building :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303262-tactical-objectives/#findComment-3945922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik_Ironfist Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Well, I hadn't realized that. I'm a bit ticked now. Man, GW really wants to hamstring players into playing the way they want us to don't they? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303262-tactical-objectives/#findComment-3946118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spazmonkey Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Dude you do not have to. Rules are like anything, they can be changed to suit your Requirements. Just simply ask your opponent if you are ok to play the generic ones. I play only space wolves, but use the generic cards. its not like your getting an advantage of any kind. If your opponent has issue, then your stuck with the space wolves ones. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303262-tactical-objectives/#findComment-3946125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik_Ironfist Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 That is a good point. That's a part of the game i still haven't wrapped my head around yet. I'm still stuck in the mindset of rules are rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303262-tactical-objectives/#findComment-3946523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baulder Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Hang on a sec. We have a detachment that gives us WS5 but requires that we issues/accept challenges. On top of that we have a tactical imperative (as well as honourable) to issues challenges. Plus they worded the cards so that it isn't the issuing of challenges that triggers the VP but actually taking part in a challenge. It is almost like they planned the whole thing. Wolves do what wolves do best, we fight and now we get paid to do so. I'd argue that these cards are better than going to grab X objective (sure those are easy, but when did you ever want an easy fight?!?). These cards actively encourage you to get stuck into the fight, which means you don't waste extra turns running down the board at the enemy, only to charge back the other way to cap an objective for a turn, giving the other army another turn to shoot your melee characters to high heavens. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303262-tactical-objectives/#findComment-3947413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Also you don't have to use the cards one can always just roll on the table, the cards are simply a convenient replacement. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303262-tactical-objectives/#findComment-3947602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonOfThunder Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 The objectives are replaced in the book as well. The codex includes a new table for the first 6. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303262-tactical-objectives/#findComment-3947614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mactire Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 You also have to roll 11 to 16, so it's not like it's a given every game. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303262-tactical-objectives/#findComment-3948170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 this is why I make sure I get the data cards My lady always asks why i need so many tac objective decks I got the basic ones for my Knights , I own the Blood angel ones , I own the Necron ones , I own the space wolf onesYou never know when yer gonna run into someone who insists you run yer specific cards cause unfortunately there are people like that out there. Me personally you can use whatever cards you want I could care less but there is always that one guy who is gonna give you a hard time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303262-tactical-objectives/#findComment-3948351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spazmonkey Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Thats it this is why I make sure I get the data cards My lady always asks why i need so many tac objective decks I got the basic ones for my Knights , I own the Blood angel ones , I own the Necron ones , I own the space wolf onesYou never know when yer gonna run into someone who insists you run yer specific cards cause unfortunately there are people like that out there. Me personally you can use whatever cards you want I could care less but there is always that one guy who is gonna give you a hard time. That's it mate. Its a pitty they dont keep producing the Cards. the only reason I dont have a deck is that I can get them any more. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303262-tactical-objectives/#findComment-3948412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 yea i dont understand why they dont do second printings for Tac Objective Cards Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303262-tactical-objectives/#findComment-3948416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spazmonkey Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 i would love a deck of them, but what can you do. I'll keep playing with the standard ones. Honestly I just wouldnt play with some one who wouldnt let me use them. Unless there is a vaild reason you must use your factions cards that i am missing here? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303262-tactical-objectives/#findComment-3948430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay170788 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Ebay is your friend. I missed the first run of space wolves cards but picked them up off ebay for £15 so not too bad Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303262-tactical-objectives/#findComment-3948461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 You can also check Wayland Games. They usually offer a discount as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303262-tactical-objectives/#findComment-3948518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rift Blade Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 It's fair bit of work but you could always make your own. Do them up on a computer & print them off to the appropriate size on card stock or even other types of cards. One of the fantasy guys here makes all his army banners this way & even did a set of psychic cards for a buddy. Just printed them off for a magic the gathering size card & glued them right on. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303262-tactical-objectives/#findComment-3949221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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