Emperor's Furor Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 At least I think these are new details, but I'm reading the new short story Chirurgeon. Don't read the spoilers below if you'd rather find out about them yourself. Firstly It appears the plot that saw the Legion who would eventually become the Emperor's Children nearly wiped, was carried out by cultists who go by the name Selenites. Secondly it appears the earliest members of the III legion were drawn from the ancient nobles houses of Europa. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303294-new-details-on-the-emperors-children-origins/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adra'Melek Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 The second one was in Betrayal. The first...are there some words missing? Do you mean the loss of geneseed? If so then as far as I'm aware the original of that wasn't known. Just there were two problems, ship carrying a load went missing and a corruption of the rest...or something like that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303294-new-details-on-the-emperors-children-origins/#findComment-3946519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 The second one was in Betrayal. The first...are there some words missing? Do you mean the loss of geneseed? If so then as far as I'm aware the original of that wasn't known. Just there were two problems, ship carrying a load went missing and a corruption of the rest...or something like that. Yes sorry. The geneseed seems to have been sabotaged by this Selenite cult and records destroyed on Terra. According to the book Fabius is Terran born and was also affected by the corruption of the geneseed but has successfully hidden it and put it off by injecting himself with a concentrated serum made up of other legionnaires bio. He was originally tasked with rooting out the problem and curing it prior to Fulgrim being found, he had to put fellow Legionaries, who through his own tests turned out to have the blight and were deemed impure, to death so that he could dissect them, including his best friend, however it turns out Fabius still has his friend but he's little more than a mindless zombie like retainer now who he keeps hidden away in his secret lab. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303294-new-details-on-the-emperors-children-origins/#findComment-3946527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Bearclaw Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Blighted III Legionaries? I thought the stocks were destroyed, part in a freak accident, part in a terrorist strike on the Luna Labs, but there was nothing wrong with the Marines themselves. They were just left in a position where they could only generate new Astartes from the progenoids of of the dead, which weren't always recoverable, thus dooming the Legion to a slow death until Fulgrim was found, allowing rapid gene-seed synthesis from his genetics. As far as I know its never been a corruption of extant Marines (that came later ). This sounds like another retcon for the III I don't care for. Also I'm not sure I like Fabius always being a psycho Mengele-in-waiting, even during the glory days of the III. Far better he goes starts out on the level, and becomes the amoral SOB we know gradually, as arrogance and pride erode the Legion's soul, his pursuit of perfection makes him think he could do a better job than the Emperor in making Astartes, and so he falls. This makes it sounds like he was just waiting for the license to got nuts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303294-new-details-on-the-emperors-children-origins/#findComment-3946547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 Well apparently some of the geneseed taken from the reserve stocks on Terra were blighted without being known and were invested into aspirants before they realised the problem. So it wasn't just casualities of war that were causing the destruction of the Legion, but the marines themselves were degenerating over a short period (like a Terran year) at a much greater rate. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303294-new-details-on-the-emperors-children-origins/#findComment-3946554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackoption Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 How were they infected? What were the symptoms? I ask because I am running a great crusade game using Deathwatch rules. I could use this for my game Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303294-new-details-on-the-emperors-children-origins/#findComment-3962072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted February 25, 2015 Author Share Posted February 25, 2015 It just says the geneseeds were polluted, including the reserves. The symptoms were the marines cells would rapidly deteriorate and burn themselves out, cancers would grow stuff like that. Fabius performs an operation on himself and sees all sorts of things wrong with him and he takes bits away to do biopsies on. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303294-new-details-on-the-emperors-children-origins/#findComment-3962093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I thought it was great insight on Fabius' character from his motivation to the reason why he's always been a merciless bastard who sees everyone as flesh sacks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303294-new-details-on-the-emperors-children-origins/#findComment-3962441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 It also goes a great length in explaining his motivation to recreate the Emperor's experiments. After all, the Astartes(with the III Legion in particular) are always told they are the pinnacle of genetic enhancement with only the Primarchs and the Emperor being higher. In the 3rd Legion, this translated into terms of perfection, with everyone chasing the "perfect" Emperor. But Fabius first-hand saw and experienced firsthand just how imperfect that creation really is. So now he probably thinks that if he can recreate and improve upon those experiments, he can succeed where the Emperor failed. He can become the perfect being he was supposed to have when he was implanted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303294-new-details-on-the-emperors-children-origins/#findComment-3962488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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