awilden Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I just wanted to see if there was any consensus about the new base sizes and what to do with the whole 32mm v 25mm, and if they can be mixed and matched. I was planning on keeping all my Blood Angels and Nurgle Chaos Space Marines on the standard 25mm bases (well the ones that are meant to be on them, and the rest having their respective bases), but I have also been putting together a new Necron detachment, and I don't really want to put them on 32mm bases either (although they're getting shown in the books all on 32mm bases), the other thing about this though was at least with necrons, it *seems* (anyone correct me if I'm wrong since I've only seen it in pics, and other forum posts on the web, that the Necron Overlords (no idea if plain Lords or Crypteks too), are now on 40mm bases, the description of the new plastic Necron Overlord even says 'comes with 40mm base'. So would it be an all or nothing with regards to the new base sizes? because the new Overlord looks pretty sweet with a 40mm base. So could you keep say all the troops of a BA/CSM army on 25mm, but put Lords/Captains etc. on 32mm bases? (and Overlords/Lords/Crypteks on 40mm). Basically I was just wondering 1) can we all opt out of the 25mm and have everything still legal, and 2) if so can we put Characters on 32mm/40mm (depending on model), and keep that legal? also I guess 3) is there an updated list of what's legal for bases now? Thanks, that was probably a bit long winded and hopefully makes sense. Also i hope this is the right section to post this, its kinda rules related but more so about the modelling aspect so I thought General PCA would be the best place. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303343-legal-base-sizes/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucien Eilam Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 This is the nearest 40k has to a rule: Models and Base Sizes The rules in this book assume that models are mounted on the base they are supplied with. Sometimes, a player may have models in his collection on unusually modelled bases. Some models aren’t supplied with a base at all. In these cases (which are, in all fairness, relatively few and far between), you should always feel free to mount the model on a base of appropriate size if you wish, using models of a similar type as guidance. The second sentence amounts to "do whatever you want, we don't care". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303343-legal-base-sizes/#findComment-3947579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awilden Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share Posted February 11, 2015 Lol I guess that's fair enough, For appropriate sizes i would assume then that if there's no real rule against it, i could go all 25mm on normal troops (given they come with the 25mm) and put characters (marines) on larger bases since they have been shown to be on them in the codex and the GW website on 32mm, and if the Necron Overlord literally comes with a 40mm, then put the other similar Lord model on a 40mm (i guess also for them they both are T5 so you could say they deserve a larger base size). I've just always had a little bit of ocd for modelling for wysiwyg and following the rules and whatnot, just thought I'd ask see what people think, and/or about specific rules. Also not at all keen of re-basing now or in the future if at all possible, i like to put a lot of effort into cool/detailed bases and its pretty heartbreaking to have to rip the poor little fellas off their bases and ruin the base and/or their little legs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303343-legal-base-sizes/#findComment-3947598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucien Eilam Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Yeah, as long as you're not doing anything ridiculous, like putting infantry squads all on 60mm bases or balancing a Dread on a 25mm, you'll be fine. I'd be a bit leery of entire power armour equivalent squads on 40mm (I'd have to wonder if that was motivated more by modelling or protection against templates), but wouldn't blink at a character on that size. If you ever do want to rebase, cut the edges off the base and glue the whole thing to the new one. Much easier and safer than prising the model off altogether. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303343-legal-base-sizes/#findComment-3947608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlson793 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Not sure if it was here or on DakkaDakka (search is on you - I've gotta get ready for work ) but someone contacted GW about it fairly recently (past month IMS). Apparently the 32mm bases were intended for 'the hobby' vs 'the game'. I believe they are now including both, so you can choose the smaller bases for game models and larger ones for display models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303343-legal-base-sizes/#findComment-3947633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGeils81 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Yeah, as long as you're not doing anything ridiculous, like putting infantry squads all on 60mm bases or balancing a Dread on a 25mm, you'll be fine. what about a dread on wait for it.....TWO 25mm bases?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303343-legal-base-sizes/#findComment-3947709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacinda Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 The second sentence amounts to "do whatever you want, we don't care". Welcome to the new grimdark. Now with cookies and rainbows! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303343-legal-base-sizes/#findComment-3947918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinyRhino Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Not sure if it was here or on DakkaDakka (search is on you - I've gotta get ready for work ) but someone contacted GW about it fairly recently (past month IMS). Apparently the 32mm bases were intended for 'the hobby' vs 'the game'. I believe they are now including both, so you can choose the smaller bases for game models and larger ones for display models. They are not including both in the boxes. You get one or the other. The "new" Necron Warrior box comes with 25mm bases for the grunts and 40mm for the Scarabs. And "new" is in quotes because it's just a reboxing of the old sprues. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303343-legal-base-sizes/#findComment-3948703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awilden Posted February 12, 2015 Author Share Posted February 12, 2015 Unless I'm seeing wrong it looked like all the necron warriors/immortals/etc etc (anything that is 25mm), in the new codex it has them all on 32mm, just from the fact they seem to be able to fit better on bases (and not have the warriors toes hanging off the edges). I guess that's probably for the looks and they just grabbed a whole bunch of 32mm bases to make the codex models look nice lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303343-legal-base-sizes/#findComment-3948823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 For what it's worth, my Bikes came with the rectangle cavalry bases, and my Avatar and War Walker have large square bases. These are legal as they are what the model came on. I have old Terminators (on 25mm) and new ones. When running these together, I simply put the old Terminators on top of new bases to make them uniform in base size and height (seeing how the new Terminators are slightly taller it all averages out). It would be fine if I ran them mixed but I just fancy them being uniform. One day I may well put my characters on the larger bases but who knows. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303343-legal-base-sizes/#findComment-3948829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinyRhino Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Unless I'm seeing wrong it looked like all the necron warriors/immortals/etc etc (anything that is 25mm), in the new codex it has them all on 32mm, just from the fact they seem to be able to fit better on bases (and not have the warriors toes hanging off the edges). I guess that's probably for the looks and they just grabbed a whole bunch of 32mm bases to make the codex models look nice lol. That appears to be exactly the situation. Even the painting tutorial on the official WarhammrTV YouTube channel has Duncan painting a Necron Warrior on a 32mm base, but the box comes with 25s. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303343-legal-base-sizes/#findComment-3948908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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