Fangbanger Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Hey guys Wanting to put a Lucious patern dread pod in my list.... Do you need to buy the Forgeworld one or will normal pods serve the same purpose? Cheers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303475-lucious-patern-pod/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ania Redfang Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 The forgeworld one is bigger, but unless you're up against people who really care about their precious forgeworld investment being the thing that allows them to use the cool rules then it doesn't matter I'd say. (This coming from a guy who used a large blast marker as a drop pod in his last game ;) ) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303475-lucious-patern-pod/#findComment-3950732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangbanger Posted February 14, 2015 Author Share Posted February 14, 2015 If it was a tournament though I guess it would matter? Nice use of the template, maybe throw an empty toilet tube on top for line of sight purposes..! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303475-lucious-patern-pod/#findComment-3950735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 All tournament require wysiwyg. Some allow conversions but some require original FW models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303475-lucious-patern-pod/#findComment-3950755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangbanger Posted February 14, 2015 Author Share Posted February 14, 2015 It's not worth £60 when I can pick up a normal one for £16. Might try it in a few friendly games first me thinks...! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303475-lucious-patern-pod/#findComment-3950779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkalleone Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 There are enough Templates for it on the net. A little work and a investment of 5-10 Bucks and you have a pretty precize selfbuild Lucious. If done correctly its at max a 1-2mm difference to the original. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303475-lucious-patern-pod/#findComment-3950835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangbanger Posted February 14, 2015 Author Share Posted February 14, 2015 Schweeeeet! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303475-lucious-patern-pod/#findComment-3950911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoic Raptor Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 I don't see why it should make a difference. In the fluff, the pods themselves should be the same size - after all, they would use the same launch mechanisms. A dreadnought should fit inside a normal pod, and honestly you should just be able to model it without all the harnesses and stuff inside. The real issue would be the rules. The codex says a drop pod can carry a dreadnought - it does not say a special pod is required. In fact, the entries for Dreadnoughts specifically refer to the Drop Pod from page 74 as the dedicated transport. If you run across a rules lawyer, use the explicit rules against him. WYSIWYG doesn't even factor into it - what you see is a drop pod, what you get is a transport that can carry 10 troops or 1 dreadnought. No reason that you should have to buy a FW model when the GW model should do. Honestly, I don't even see why a drop pod model should be required. After they land, they are static terrain. I've avoided drop-heavy army lists specifically because I don't want to spend a couple hundred dollars on "terrain" that's too big to fit in my army bag. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303475-lucious-patern-pod/#findComment-3951255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 I think they're talking about the lucius pod, ulfgrim. What you say applies to regular drop pods bought via the codex, but the lucius has its own separate rules and model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303475-lucious-patern-pod/#findComment-3951298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangbanger Posted February 14, 2015 Author Share Posted February 14, 2015 Correct Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303475-lucious-patern-pod/#findComment-3951324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoic Raptor Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 OK, so not just a regular drop pod transporting a dreadnought, but some pod that works differently in some way? I don't do much FW stuff - they're the only source I know that makes GW product look "inexpensive", not to mention the difficulty obtaining it stateside. That said, I don't see a major difference in the vehicle. Aside from not having the interior harnesses, what's the real difference in the model? Yes, you can actually stand a dreadnought within, if it has no banner. But that's not a requirement. I don't see any reason why you should not be allowed to convert a GW model to this pattern - and any opponent who was a stickler had better hope none of his miniatures are conversions that contain "unofficial" parts, right? :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303475-lucious-patern-pod/#findComment-3951384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 I personally wouldn't mind someone proxying. The completionist in me wants to get the real deal from forgeworld but theyre so pricy. Tournament wise, it is probably a no-go. Outside tournaments, YMMV but it doesn't seem too unreasonable to proxy (though you may complicate matters if the Lucius is indistinguishable from normal pods and you field those too) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303475-lucious-patern-pod/#findComment-3951422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangbanger Posted February 15, 2015 Author Share Posted February 15, 2015 Yeah the Lucious is bigger and so I think in a tourney you woukd have to use the exact model. I can't see anyone minding in a friendly though. As for rules wise, it gains shrouded the turn it arrives and also gives it to the dreadnaught if it disembarks. It also allows the dread to sit inside it for a turn and then disembark and assult the next. I think it previously had better rules but that us what it can do currently. Think about how I would use ut though, I feel it is actually more of a hinderance but will defo give a whirl Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303475-lucious-patern-pod/#findComment-3951650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkalleone Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 It gives everyone behind it shrouded too. So using it to make a Sight/shrout blocker for your enganging forces is a big plus exspecially when its night fighting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303475-lucious-patern-pod/#findComment-3951772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangbanger Posted February 15, 2015 Author Share Posted February 15, 2015 Yeah your right. I'm thinking of using it with fang, but although he will be protected any units will just move away if he stays in it a turn .plus he can use his flamer if he gets out of a normal one Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303475-lucious-patern-pod/#findComment-3951964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvmoogy Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 my last game saw me get an a4 piece of paper, draw aound the base of my 1 painted drop pod and use that as a guide....I think kept switching the pod around so that I could see lines of sight etc.... luckily I have more pods on the way haha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303475-lucious-patern-pod/#findComment-3952280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay170788 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 I honestly can't see why people are concerned if you use a smaller drop pod for a lucius pattern pod. It confers shrouded to your units that are obscured, the bigger the model the bigger the buff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303475-lucious-patern-pod/#findComment-3953824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 For what it's worth, in a casual setting I just use a regular Drop Pod with the gun removed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303475-lucious-patern-pod/#findComment-3953830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanPesci Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Get those big lucozade bottles, chop the top off, turn upside down, selotape back together. Spray Black. Pretty much perfect size/shape for proxying droppods if you want to play around with them without first shelling out cash. As for the lucious, aye the actual model is slightly bigger and actually fits a dread, so that first turn where the dread stays inside (since they changed the rules) at least you can have accurately portrayed on the table. And th ebigger the model the better cover its giving to other things too. Me i wouldnt mind though, but yeah, tournaments will probably want the proper model. Honestly, I don't even see why a drop pod model should be required. Cos once they arrive, although static, they can make shooting attacks, or simply be used to block areas of the board, or provide cover for your own troops. All of which you need a model for. Sure proxy it out of card or whatever if you want, but you still need something on the board. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303475-lucious-patern-pod/#findComment-3953926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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