Chaplain Gunzhard Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 I don't recall ever reading a reason for this but maybe somebody else does? With some of our priests wearing white, why are some in red? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Age! Not his, but the games. It's about the progression of the BA in the game itself. Corbs was about in the as far back as the Angel's of Death codex. He had white trimmings then. Back then (and not until the PDF i think?) we didnt have dedicated SHP models. (Im a bit rusty on the fluff- so may need some checking on that timeline stuff) So, my guess would be that his aesthetic/colouring didnt change as the rules evolved and more fluff/heraldry was established for priests and apothecaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Gunzhard Posted February 14, 2015 Author Share Posted February 14, 2015 Yeah mine has been painted the same (red) since Angels of Death hah but I just wondered why he still has red armour in the new books. I'm probably wrong but I feel like it was never really explained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaezus Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Maybe because of the same reason he can't take a jump pack :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucien Eilam Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 It's about the progression of the BA in the game itself. Corbs was about in the as far back as the Angel's of Death codex. He had white trimmings then. Back then (and not until the PDF i think?) we didnt have dedicated SHP models. (Im a bit rusty on the fluff- so may need some checking on that timeline stuff) So, my guess would be that his aesthetic/colouring didnt change as the rules evolved and more fluff/heraldry was established for priests and apothecaries. Even in Angels of Death there's a white-armoured Blood Angels Apothecary alongside red-armoured Apothecary Corbulo. Mephiston, Astorath and Tycho are all even farther from the codex scheme than Corbulo. The use of specialist colours as spot colours instead of the main armour is now well-established for all codex Chapters though. Even the Studio Ultramarines have a blue-armoured Techmarine with a red helmet and pauldron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 If red is good enough for Corbulo, its good enough for all the priests (all of mine are red) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urauloth Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Whaaat... techmarines with armour that isn't red? Tech-heresy, surely. I always knew the sons of Guilliman were up to something, and... y'know, I'm going to leave this one to someone who isn't a Space Wolf. It just doesn't feel right. (I wonder if specialist colours as spot colours will ever spread to librarians...) Anyway, it seems like sanguinary priests in the main BA chapter wear red with bone-white spot colours or entirely bone-white armour interchangeably, with no fluff reason for the difference? A footnote somewhere about it would have been nice, but I like having the two schemes available. I'd like more info on how it works in various successors, too. The Carmine Blades are somewhat confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrunTeufel Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Until this eddition, priest were always red with white decorations/trims. Our earliest priest (other than corbulo) is the one that came with the 3rd edition honor guard box and studio painters painted it red. The priest art from the 5th edition codex depicted priests with red armor and gold/white decorations. White armor on priests is a new thing which I kinda dislike but to each their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Gunzhard Posted February 14, 2015 Author Share Posted February 14, 2015 Hmm I had a white priest in 3rd and I'm pretty sure I always have stuck to the books, perhaps it was the old Adeptus Astartes stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Gunzhard Posted February 14, 2015 Author Share Posted February 14, 2015 Oops I meant Index Astartes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucien Eilam Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Codex Angels of Death: http://cdn.lightbringers-space-marines.net/wip/aodapothecary.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrunTeufel Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Codex Angels of Death: http://cdn.lightbringers-space-marines.net/wip/aodapothecary.jpg They replaced apothecaries after this though. And the replacement priests were painted red. Oops I meant Index Astartes... I just checked my copy and you are right. I see a corbulo/tycho hybrid in a white artificer armor. So far we have red for 3rd, white for 4th, red for 5th and white again for 7th edition. They just can't make their mind up it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucien Eilam Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 They replaced apothecaries after this though. No. Apothecary and Sanguinary Priest are used interchangeably in 2nd edition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Gunzhard Posted February 15, 2015 Author Share Posted February 15, 2015 I think the Index Astartes II book was at least as far back as 3rd ed and I seem to remember the Blood Angels articles also being in WD even earlier than that. But in either case, we still have no idea why Corbulo wears red? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrunTeufel Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 I think the Index Astartes II book was at least as far back as 3rd ed and I seem to remember the Blood Angels articles also being in WD even earlier than that. But in either case, we still have no idea why Corbulo wears red? Index astartes 2 came out in 2003, a little before 4th edition came out in 2004. But like I said, the priests are not strictly white. It changes from edition to edition (there were different variants in the same edition too as it turns out) so corbulo being red isn't that much of a mystery. http://kofler.dot.at/40k/units/Blood_Angel_Honour_Guard.gif As can be seen here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrunTeufel Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Double post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffJedi Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Specialists of all chapters have more leeway with their color schemes even as far back as 1st edition. There was the codex approved colors, chapter variants and even personal variations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vahouth Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Corbulo's armor is so boring while comparing it with the new Priests, that I'd like to think that his red armor seperates the "high" priests from the regular ones. When I first saw the new priest model I thought it was a resculpt of Corbulo. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Thirst Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 For some reason, the Red with White trim colour scheme on our Priests has never truly sat well with me. I've always painted Apothecaries as they were depicted in IA:http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee410/TheRedThirst/ia-Priest_zpscacb9dbd.jpg Maybe someone at GW has the idea that to make Corbulo stand out (or for the fact that hes High Priest) they just inversed the colours Corbulo's armor is so boring while comparing it with the new Priests, that I'd like to think that his red armor seperates the "high" priests from the regular ones.When I first saw the new priest model I thought it was a resculpt of Corbulo. I think we all hoped for it, Brother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drifter155 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Corbulo was first painted by the eavy metal team in the 90's when they often painted stuff red for no reason. Goblins in red boots for no good reason at all also occurred around the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Gunzhard Posted February 15, 2015 Author Share Posted February 15, 2015 So from the oldest to the newest codex they seem to show Sanguinary Priests in both red and white; what I should have asked originally was - does anyone recall any 'fluff' reasons for either color on our priests? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaezus Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 May help if there's any heresy or pre-heresy artwork or fluff snippets on apothecaries or priests. Can't recall any details from Fear to Tread or even the omnibus stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 He's the high priest. Corbulo's armor is so boring while comparing it with the new Priests, that I'd like to think that his red armor seperates the "high" priests from the regular ones.When I first saw the new priest model I thought it was a resculpt of Corbulo. I still think that it is. I mean, that model has the special chain sword, and the grail looks the same. Basically, just change the head and there you go, Corbulo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I still think that they did not want to invalidate the old, iconic sculpts, so we got newer sculpts/interpretations of older models, just with new rules. Look at Dante/Sanguinor, Mephison/Astorath, Corbulo/New Priest, All of the Sanguinary Guard/Tycho. They don't invalidate the older model, but make it very easy for converters to turn the newer sculpt into the older character. Also remember the rule of retail. The one that isn't in uniform is the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 So from the oldest to the newest codex they seem to show Sanguinary Priests in both red and white; what I should have asked originally was - does anyone recall any 'fluff' reasons for either color on our priests? I don't recall any fluff explanations. I think they just went with whatever colours the Eavy Metal team felt like painting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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