Lachdannan Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 I hope this hasn't been discussed before, as a quick search revealed no results. In my next game I am thinking of taking a Primus Medicae to go with Sigismund and his terminators. What I am after is another point of view. Looking at the entry I would like to arm him in Terminator armour, and also give him a Storm Shield (as he is Imperial Fists), and my model is also armed with a thunder hammer (Essentially the Thunder Hammer and storm shield on one arm (right) and the narthecium on the left arm). Is that combination doable? Or am I trying to fit too much on the model? Any advice on this matter would be most appreciated. Cheers! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303506-primus-medicae-armament/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Totally doable as the Narthecium isn't actually a wargear choice being replaced like the Combi-Bolter is nor is the Thunderhammer (power Weapon). You also, technically, keep the Needle Pistol for him being a Primus Medicae so you can still shoot :P albeit at very short distances. However, due to the storm shield, it doesn't give you a bonus attack anymore. If he didn't have the storm shield (why wouldn't he if he has the option?) you would, in fact, get +1A for having CC + Pistol even if he has a Combi-Bolter/whatever in the other hand. I only gave mine a Solarite Power Gauntlet because its the same price as a Thunderhammer, doesn't have specialist weapon ( so my AA PM, geared the same still gets +1A with his BP/Needle), comes master-crafted and is AP1 for extra vehicle popping punch if you ever need it, though the last one is a very minor point. So, gear him up however you see fit, really, as there is no real restrictions on the wargear he can take. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303506-primus-medicae-armament/#findComment-3951467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucien Eilam Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Legal but impractical. I'd put the narthecium and the hammer on the same arm. Hammer and shield on the same arm would be a bit absurd. You need to model a needle pistol on him somewhere too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303506-primus-medicae-armament/#findComment-3951469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lachdannan Posted February 15, 2015 Author Share Posted February 15, 2015 Thanks very much for your thoughts. I must admit I never considered the Solarite Power Glove. I think I might pull the model apart again (I did make it 2 or 3 years ago), and move the Storm Shield over the Narthecium, and model a Solarite Power Glove on the right arm. Again, thanks for input! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303506-primus-medicae-armament/#findComment-3951488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 You don't need to model a needle pistol really, as long as he has the Narthecium on him everyone will know what he is. My PM is based of the Tyberos model and I just swapped one of the arms for a terminator Narthecium arm, and put one of those lamp things on the top of his armour. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303506-primus-medicae-armament/#findComment-3951583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 You don't need to model a needle pistol really, as long as he has the Narthecium on him everyone will know what he is. My PM is based of the Tyberos model and I just swapped one of the arms for a terminator Narthecium arm, and put one of those lamp things on the top of his armour. If playing in tournaments, i've found so.e TO's can get a bit natty about WYSIWYG on models, and require everything a model is equipped with to be modelled on, even the stuff that is normally free with the unit entry. That was a kick in the teeth when I found out that my Tac Marines only had Bolters rather than Bolter, Bolt Pistol and Close Combat Weapon when the liet first came out. Not saying it is a common thing, and I've yet to return to that local tournament until that TO leaves, but be aware it may happen, and without WYSIWYG to fall back on, it can be a pain. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303506-primus-medicae-armament/#findComment-3951598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Yeah, but the Needle pistol isn't an extra bit you pay for as well, it comes with the Primus Medicae upgrade. So if something is a Primus Medicae, it has a needle pistol. I can't see any TO anywhere being that anal about WYSIWYG. Edit- just noticed you said 'even stuff that's free..' But thats a case of that TO was a douche, I really don't think that would come up normally. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303506-primus-medicae-armament/#findComment-3951607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lachdannan Posted February 15, 2015 Author Share Posted February 15, 2015 A valuable insight there. Since I'm not really a tournament gamer, I think that I'll just have the Narthecium and the spot light and vials. I've made the initial model and will post him when he has a little paint on him. Again, thanks for the input. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303506-primus-medicae-armament/#findComment-3951632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokkorex Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Any idea what would be good weapons for a PA primus medicae? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303506-primus-medicae-armament/#findComment-3952127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Depends, what kind of squad will he be running with and what will he be fighting the most? A PM is one of the more flexible consuls out there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303506-primus-medicae-armament/#findComment-3952132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokkorex Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Uhm, hadn't really thought about that. Propably a maxed out tactical squad with sergeant with power Sword/fist and meltabombs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303506-primus-medicae-armament/#findComment-3952138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Uhm, hadn't really thought about that. Propably a maxed out tactical squad with sergeant with power Sword/fist and meltabombs. You're better off with a cheap apothecary then. A Primus Medicae is mostly there to be given to squads that can't take an Apothecary such as: Terminators, Jetbikes, Jump Packs, other elite units that aren't allowed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303506-primus-medicae-armament/#findComment-3952162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokkorex Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Damn, that makes sense. Ah well, might as well Run him as an apothecary for now, maybe i can find a use for a primus if i start playing zone mortalis games? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303506-primus-medicae-armament/#findComment-3952169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Depends. He can't be a compulsory HQ anymore due to the FAQ. And since its ZM, depending on the legion, it limits the PM to pretty much joining Terminators since Jump Packs and Jetbikes are a bad idea in ZM. Best example I have is the Imperial Fists: I can't give a regular apothecary to my Templar or Phalanx Warders and Terminators. If I want any of those to have FNP its a Primus Medicae. At which point I'll gear them appropriately. Templar Primus: Artificer Armor, Refractor Field/Boarding Shield, Solarite Power Gauntlet. Warder Prumus: Artificer Armor, Boarding Shield, Power Maul or Sword. Terminator Primus: Tartaros, Storm Shield, Solarite Power Gauntlet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303506-primus-medicae-armament/#findComment-3952178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokkorex Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Screw it, i'll give him a cataphractii suit and Run him with a terminator squad, in which case he'll propably get a combi-plasma and a power maul. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303506-primus-medicae-armament/#findComment-3952181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Was more thinking about seeing him as a souped up apothecary with more Killing power and just sticking him with a breacher squad. PA characters can still join terminator squads right? Yes, they can. But why give him a 2+/5++ (Artificer armor + refractor field) when you can give him 2+/4++ in cataphractii when rolling with a Cata Squad? Not to mention its pretty much the same cost for then giving him a Power Weapon + Combi-Bolter which come stock with Terminator Armor. Also, you don't want him to be the Challenging dude. You want to keep him alive as long as possible. So making him killy is all well and good but if he becomes too killy and therefore a priority target, well, that ain't so great. He also still has +1A in terminator armor due to him keeping his Needle Pistol for being a Primus Medicae. Unless you give him a shield. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303506-primus-medicae-armament/#findComment-3952183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokkorex Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Edited my post While you were writing, sorry. Agree on everything you Said, but i have no intention to challenge anyone with the primus, that's what sergeants and Champions are for. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303506-primus-medicae-armament/#findComment-3952187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Welp there we go :P! If anything, give him a Power Axe for Ap2 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303506-primus-medicae-armament/#findComment-3952201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokkorex Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Nah, the squad he'll be running with Will have plenty of power axes to begin with, and i don't like giving high-initiative HQ units unwieldy weapons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303506-primus-medicae-armament/#findComment-3952208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Fair enough. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303506-primus-medicae-armament/#findComment-3952217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 bear in mind if you give him Cataphractii, even if the rest of the squad don't, the presence of Slow and Purposeful prevents overwatch. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303506-primus-medicae-armament/#findComment-3952267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokkorex Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Won't Matter if the unit he's with is also in cataphractii. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303506-primus-medicae-armament/#findComment-3952269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Hence why I said 'bear in mind' ;). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303506-primus-medicae-armament/#findComment-3952281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dono1979 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Also something you can do with the Primus Medicae is make him a Gunslinger by giving him a second pistol (in addition to the Needle Pistol), I can remember what options are availble, but pretty sure that there is a Volkite pistol option or something like that? Even with the Storm Shield you still get to fire both pistols, Storm Shileds only limit your bonus attack in CC. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303506-primus-medicae-armament/#findComment-3952506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lachdannan Posted February 28, 2015 Author Share Posted February 28, 2015 Thought I'd make good on my word and post a picture of the Primaris Medicae in Terminator armour I decided on. Here is Primaris Medicae Omni for your viewing pleasure, with Terminator armour, Storm Shield and a Solarite Power Glove. http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb383/lachdan/DSCF3096_zps08bb7025.jpg Thanks for the usual advice! Cheers! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303506-primus-medicae-armament/#findComment-3964432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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