Fire Golem Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 So I saw this rumour on DakkaDakka, and while it's just a rumour, things Hastings says generally has some weight to it: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/180/635635.page#7596270 If you follow the link on there it seems like GW may be taking over the heresy stuff (unless I'm reading too much into it). The thought of this worries me greatly, FW are doing a blinding job and I really don't trust GW to continue at the level FW are... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Okay, this indeed ha me worried if it means GW will take over the heresy. I will admit I would mind a tactical squad set of plastic MK II / III / IV or V space marines for the same price as a regular tactical squad and other such stuff since it would save a lot of money. BUT, Forge World are doing so great and if I see Matt Ward writting a new horus heresy rule book Im gonna shoot myself in the foot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/#findComment-3951916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted February 15, 2015 Author Share Posted February 15, 2015 Mat Ward has left haha but yeah, I agree. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/#findComment-3951917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiel Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Could this be related to the 40k end-times rumour? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/#findComment-3951921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Mat Ward has left haha but yeah, I agree. I did not know that :P And thank god! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/#findComment-3951923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperorOfMankind Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 What's wrong with gw doing what they've done before? Fw release something that does really and gw co opt it. See the valkyrie/baneblade etc If they do a starter set and fw carry on writing the rules I'm happy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/#findComment-3951927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 What's wrong with gw doing what they've done before? Fw release something that does really and gw co opt it. See the valkyrie/baneblade etc If they do a starter set and fw carry on writing the rules I'm happy. I can second this. Leave the fluff and rules to FW and the minis to GW (although I would still prefer the FW team working on the characters, but that might be too much to ask), I think I MIGHT work out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/#findComment-3951931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted February 15, 2015 Author Share Posted February 15, 2015 If that's how they do it, fine. But please GW don't touch the writing! And I don't even really want them to do the models. Plastic MkII, III, IV, and VI, that's okay, but not the legion specific stuff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/#findComment-3951933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barabbas Sogalon Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Snap fit primarchs... (shudders) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/#findComment-3951941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 I don't see this as particularly worrying. If GW does a 30k starter it, to me, doesn't reallly seem to be an indicator that they're going to take 30k over from FW. Rather, to me, it seems like a move to promote 30k by having GW make a starter box for it. First it would help raise awareness of 30k's existance, not all are like me, a slave to the forgeworld webpage, following their release patterns sacrally. A starter box would then have its own physical box complete with cover art and the like, and rather than FW bags, this means infinitely more presence inside a gaming store for instance. It would also feature on the GW page with greater fanfare. It should also mean possibly lower entrance requirements as the box would probably be pretty cheap compared to the contents, again serving to 'ensnare' more people into 30k. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/#findComment-3951942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathspectersgt7 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Hmm GW, FW,. Same ,BAH!!! never mind. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/#findComment-3951944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFeeder Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 I wouldn't call it worrying either. GW considers the Heresy line to be a core product. I seriously doubt they are simply going to say "Hey FW, go back to doing 40K and Fantasy and leave the Heresy for us." It's wrong on a number of levels, least of all being the limitations of plastic moulding for things like characters and Primarchs. Like Reinhard has alluded, it's highly likely it will be a gateway into the Heresy. At the moment it's quite cost prohibitive, but if anything it's an indication that GW is willing to invest in the Heresy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/#findComment-3951946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted February 15, 2015 Author Share Posted February 15, 2015 It's not the same is it. Different sculptors, different writers. It's the same company but everything that effects the game/models is separate from 40k, past being based on the same rules. I wouldn't call it worrying either. GW considers the Heresy line to be a core product. I seriously doubt they are simply going to say "Hey FW, go back to doing 40K and Fantasy and leave the Heresy for us." It's wrong on a number of levels, least of all being the limitations of plastic moulding for things like characters and Primarchs. Like Reinhard has alluded, it's highly likely it will be a gateway into the Heresy. At the moment it's quite cost prohibitive, but if anything it's an indication that GW is willing to invest in the Heresy. That all makes sense and would be reassuring, if GW were a normal, sensible company... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/#findComment-3951948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 If they could keep the FW quality and bring it to GW prices, then yeah it sounds good. Otherwise this rumor leaves me leery. I'm not very credible on plastics/resins but I doubt GW plastics would keep the level of detail that the resin kits have. Plus, GW keeps the trend of everything to be Heroic scale with oversized and disproportionate body pieces (looking at you space marines). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/#findComment-3951958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 maybe we could merge this thread with http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303432-rumours-40k-endtimes-mkix-armour-hh-by-gw-oo/ ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/#findComment-3951971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 GW=Thunderwolves FW=Jetbikes GW=Eldar Codex FW=Heresy rules Given the track records of both entities, I can understand why there would be worry. After all, look at the Centurions of GW. And then look at the Castellax of FW. maybe we could merge this thread with http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303432-rumours-40k-endtimes-mkix-armour-hh-by-gw-oo/ ?Why? It has never been against rules to have a rumor thread in the News and Rumor section and then the pertinent subforum. Otherwise we should merge the CSM in March thread as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/#findComment-3951972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 No thanks. This is for the AoD people and it's nice to have a thread that's not full of people arguing for nine pages about off-topic tripe. Anyway, does anyone recall the rumours about Forgworld stuff being sold in their stores? Perhaps a starter set is the origination of those rumours. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/#findComment-3951973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Carnelian Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 I don't see this as particularly worrying. If GW does a 30k starter it, to me, doesn't reallly seem to be an indicator that they're going to take 30k over from FW. Rather, to me, it seems like a move to promote 30k by having GW make a starter box for it. First it would help raise awareness of 30k's existance, not all are like me, a slave to the forgeworld webpage, following their release patterns sacrally. A starter box would then have its own physical box complete with cover art and the like, and rather than FW bags, this means infinitely more presence inside a gaming store for instance. It would also feature on the GW page with greater fanfare. It should also mean possibly lower entrance requirements as the box would probably be pretty cheap compared to the contents, again serving to 'ensnare' more people into 30k. And good business. Rake in cash from the vets and newcomers alike. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/#findComment-3951977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Anyway, does anyone recall the rumours about Forgworld stuff being sold in their stores? Perhaps a starter set is the origination of those rumours. yep, it would fit with these rumours too ... Why? It has never been against rules to have a rumor thread in the News and Rumor section and then the pertinent subforum. Otherwise we should merge the CSM in March thread as well. just a suggestion ;) but yeah, the off-topic talk is exhausting >.> Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/#findComment-3951978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 GW=Thunderwolves FW=Jetbikes GW=Eldar Codex FW=Heresy rules Given the track records of both entities, I can understand why there would be worry. After all, look at the Centurions of GW. And then look at the Castellax of FW. maybe we could merge this thread with http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303432-rumours-40k-endtimes-mkix-armour-hh-by-gw-oo/ ?Why? It has never been against rules to have a rumor thread in the News and Rumor section and then the pertinent subforum. Otherwise we should merge the CSM in March thread as well. FW to GW: "Look at your Centurions. Now at mine. Now back to your Centurions. Now I'm a Glaive tank. Don't smell like 13 year old Ultra fanboys and dirty xenos. Smell like AP2 at initiative and thunderhawk gunships." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/#findComment-3951982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiel Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 FW to GW: "Look at your Centurions. Now at mine. Now back to your Centurions. Now I'm a Glaive tank. Don't smell like 13 year old Ultra fanboys and dirty xenos. Smell like AP2 at initiative and thunderhawk gunships. Xiphon Interceptors" Fixed that for ya! If its well handled and the rules are still done in the same way then its probably nothing to worry about, and tbh a plastic box of the early mk armours would be welcomed by my wallet. If GW were to start changing the writing team then I'd start to worry. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/#findComment-3951989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Callius Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 If they keep up the detail, quality and presence the FW models have and bring the prices down a notch I'm all for it. For me FW's models come off more ''realistic'' if I can use that word in this setting. So as long as the overall designing and fluff writing goes on at FW it should be okay....I hope.... Unfortunately I am worried about GW's newer comic book style minis. Where's the grim-dark feel of a lord of skulls who looks like an 90's toy or the centurions that look like they will fall over in headwind?! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/#findComment-3951990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Well, they have the "armour through the ages" box which they could expand upon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/#findComment-3951991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phalanx Warder Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 After doing a little forensics on this i have the following points: 1. Oh no 2. Oh Hell no 3. Okay from a company standpoint this may make sense for GW, I would love to know how much Forge World contribute to the overall GW profits. I am willing to bet they clear mad money, considering that they are a sub section of GW this could drive them to throw there lot into the Heresy pot. lets face it FW is pulling in 61 pounds for 10 marines with bolters where as GW is only getting 25 pounds, I don't like it but it makes sense. Heresy gaming can take up to 20 man squads. GW sees the $ signs 4. From a Heresy Fan's point of view this rumor could not be any worse, especially if GW writers get a hold of it. 5. If there are any parts of this that are factual then i hope that GW come at 30k from a Great Crusade perspective and explore some of the less known/unknown Xenos factions or even divergent human empires, lets face it there are many 40k fans that find Imperial forces boring and I would love to play more Great Crusade type games. But they need to leave the HERESY ALONE!!!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/#findComment-3951995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leoric Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Wasn't there at the weekender open discussion a question about plastic Mk II-III-IV armour? I believe someone wrote, that the FW Studio said they didn't have something like this in plan for the near future. I'm biased by these rumors. I agree, that cheaper line troops would be good, but FW have done such a massive and amazing work with the Heresy, it would be unfair to rip it from their hands. They are really into the whole Heresy, they created a setting and a game so epic, so great, I'm really proud to be "on the Heresy train"! The only thing that saddens me, is that I'm not able to meet with them personally to shake their hands for it, and that I cannot buy every gorgeous new model they put out every week. I admired GW for years, but I have always a fear, that they will mess up something. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/#findComment-3951997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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