Urauloth Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I'd love a plastic kit with mixed heresy-era armour. I'd stop fence-sitting and take the plunge into doing a heresy-era force, for one thing, and for another, it'd be bloody brilliant for my chaos marines. (a kit like that would sell billions to ebay bitz sites, too, can you even imagine?) As long as FW get left in peace to do their own fluff and nobody tries to palm off any deep-striking land raiders, I'm down. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/page/4/#findComment-3952542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delvarus Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I would be willing to bet money on this not being what we all fear. "If" GW do this, it will probably be along the lines of older armour marks done in the 40k style. So they will likely have purity seals, skulls and more imperial eagles than you could shake a stick at! To be fair they probably don't shift many of the Armour through the ages kits these days because of the FW equivalents and like most Finecast kits see this as a good time to update them (they are running out of finecast space marines to re-do) and GW makes a ton every time they make a new marine kit. After all, those minis mainly appeal to the older gamer. I for one have some but struggle to include them in a 30k force purely because they are a head shorter than most new space marines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/page/4/#findComment-3952602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darog Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Cool news! I'd really like it to be true. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/page/4/#findComment-3952614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Its rumours like this that keep me from ever having an entire army! :P My mind is full of "what if"'s. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/page/4/#findComment-3952984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Thats upsetting in the extreme Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/page/4/#findComment-3953021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grand_master85 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I don't put much stock in rumours. I'll just forget about it till the point when, and if, it happens. For the meantime, I'm gonna do what I always do; spend every available penny at FW, much to the chargrin of my other half. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/page/4/#findComment-3953082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I do not trust GW at large to tackle 30K. They've done a great job with ruining the 40K setting, showing blatant favoritism with certain factions, and the ever present codex creep. For Christ sake, keep GW away from this! 30K is balanced, the models are great, the background that FW has put into this timeline is amazing, and I feel if GW touches it, it will inevtiably be filled with garbage like Draigo, Thunderwolves, and Necron / Blood Angels brodex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/page/4/#findComment-3953178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grand_master85 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 One suspects that, rather than stealing Forge Worlds thunder, it may more likely be a revival of Epic? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/page/4/#findComment-3953280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 i have though about it .... and it wouldn't be the first time that GW does the "basic unit" for a HH army .... i just say Knight Paladin/Errant ... GW has done the basic model (which would be the basic skitarii unit/tactial squad for the Legions) and FW the other expensive stuff (Megaera upgrade kit and the Cerastus body) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/page/4/#findComment-3953441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Yeah, but what would be the basic unit of Legiones Astartes? Mk I Thunder Armor? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/page/4/#findComment-3953469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlandMoonGuy Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 It's too premature for worry. There are plenty of "nightmare scenarios" that spring to mind but life's too short and 30K is too much fun to play in the meantime. A plastic starter box that includes 30K era armor variants would only be a positive given the current landscape. Any plastic 30K models would be a great way for more players to enjoy the game who find the FW prices prohibitive. (I do feel the need to point out that GW prices are getting so close to FW's it seems to hardly matter but that's me. ) GW has lots of options to go from there w/o diluting/diverting the development roadmap that FW has very clearly laid out for years to come. Making supplemental plastic kits that cross the great divide is easy to do w/o being intrusive to either system. Loyal and Chaos marines in 40K have lots of fluff excuses to explain why they have access to some ancient and venerated war gear. You don't have to "take over" the HH rules from FW to leverage that. So it's all good till it isn't, as for now, so far so good. Cheers, -OMG Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/page/4/#findComment-3953477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Thought. There is a ton of Tallarn hype coming out. In personal memory, there have been three major events that got severely hyped. One, was te Know No Fear release when GW proper encouraged everyone and their dogs to get out there and "reenact Calth". Two, was Shield of Baal. Three, was the currently-delayed Dark Hunters novel. What if this is going to be a GW-hyped Tallarn release that involves a push for a Tallarn reenactment and maybe a few specialized releases? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/page/4/#findComment-3953506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 It's too premature for worry. There are plenty of "nightmare scenarios" that spring to mind but life's too short and 30K is too much fun to play in the meantime. A plastic starter box that includes 30K era armor variants would only be a positive given the current landscape. Any plastic 30K models would be a great way for more players to enjoy the game who find the FW prices prohibitive. (I do feel the need to point out that GW prices are getting so close to FW's it seems to hardly matter but that's me. ) GW has lots of options to go from there w/o diluting/diverting the development roadmap that FW has very clearly laid out for years to come. Making supplemental plastic kits that cross the great divide is easy to do w/o being intrusive to either system. Loyal and Chaos marines in 40K have lots of fluff excuses to explain why they have access to some ancient and venerated war gear. You don't have to "take over" the HH rules from FW to leverage that. So it's all good till it isn't, as for now, so far so good. Cheers, -OMG In Australia fw is cheaper Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/page/4/#findComment-3953522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Coinciding legion and skitarii for a go between 30k and 40k does sound like good business to me. Allowing others to dip their toes into 30k (read: brainwashing ;) part of the ship...) while still being able to play in 40k sounds very amicable. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/page/4/#findComment-3953543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted February 17, 2015 Author Share Posted February 17, 2015 Coinciding legion and skitarii for a go between 30k and 40k does sound like good business to me. Allowing others to dip their toes into 30k (read: brainwashing ;) part of the ship...) while still being able to play in 40k sounds very amicable. It does sound amicable, and sensible... Very unlike GW... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/page/4/#findComment-3953640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praefectus Invictus Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 It's too premature for worry. There are plenty of "nightmare scenarios" that spring to mind but life's too short and 30K is too much fun to play in the meantime. A plastic starter box that includes 30K era armor variants would only be a positive given the current landscape. Any plastic 30K models would be a great way for more players to enjoy the game who find the FW prices prohibitive. (I do feel the need to point out that GW prices are getting so close to FW's it seems to hardly matter but that's me. ) GW has lots of options to go from there w/o diluting/diverting the development roadmap that FW has very clearly laid out for years to come. Making supplemental plastic kits that cross the great divide is easy to do w/o being intrusive to either system. Loyal and Chaos marines in 40K have lots of fluff excuses to explain why they have access to some ancient and venerated war gear. You don't have to "take over" the HH rules from FW to leverage that. So it's all good till it isn't, as for now, so far so good. Cheers, -OMG In Australia fw is cheaper To be honest Kurama FW is not cheaper in Aus. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/page/4/#findComment-3953643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted February 17, 2015 Author Share Posted February 17, 2015 This seems much less scary: Just got through reading the latest bouts of Harry & Hastings posts and I'm all aflutter for this year's GW releases. My wallet, however, isn't too keen on the idea. Not sure if Dakka's forum rules & guidelines -- not to mention whatever is considered courteous on the internet -- allow for posting the entirety of the aforementioned rumor mongers rumors, so I'll just post another poster's assessment. WE DID IT GENTLEMEN To summarize... -In No Particular Order- Adeptus Mechanicus Codex & models (full release) Genestealer Cult Codex & models (Harelquin sized release) Deathwatch Codex & models (Harelquin sized release) Horus Heresy Standalone box game, on sale for a few months, then models become part of 30k range - Mark 4 + Cataphract armors featured. Assassins Standalone box game, on sale for a few months, then models become part of the 40k range. Also of note: Greater Daemons all complete Dark Angels later in the year Tzeentch later in the year Automatically Appended Next Post:Also, with regard to Mark IX (as MajorWesJanson mentions above): Quote Originally Posted by 75hastings69 View Post Enough with the mk 9 armour. I've stated please DO NOT ASSOCIATE ANY OF THIS WITH MK9 ARMOUR. I have heard no such thing, and it has nothing to do with anything on this thread. IF there is mk9 armour it's something totally different to what's on this thread, or are we deliberately trying to merge all the rumours back into one large blob? I think I can clear this one up.It would seem duffybear heard a rumour about new space marines. He naturally assumed these were what came next .... mark 9 However it did not occur to him that what his rumour was about was what came before ..... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/page/4/#findComment-3953694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_r_parker Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Much better... Not quite as good as I had hoped (plastic version of Mk II - IV, Tactical + Despoiler), but nowhere near as bad as I had feared (GW taking over the HH product and running it into the ground). Mk IV is pretty much a no-brainer if they had to chose a single mark of PA, but the inclusion of plastic Cataphractii is gravy. This is all dependent on the sculpts that came though into the box - if they're the current FW designs then all is good, if they decide to 40k the models by loading them with miscellaneous trophies / purity seals / aquillas / etc then this might turn into a miss. if the models are good, then the best news is that they'll be folded into the 30k range after the splash release, so no sourcing from eBay scalps. If I were a betting man, I would look at the previous game releases (Dark Vengeance as a prime example) for an idea of what they were to include in a boxset: Guys in PA, check (MkIV) Guys in TA, check (Cataphractii) Dreadnought... (am I wrong in hoping for a stock plastic Contemptor?...) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/page/4/#findComment-3953712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Plastic mkIV and Cataphractii armor? I think I'm in love <3333 I hope it's similar to GW adopting FW kits in the past, though IIRC, they've been mostly tanks. A plastic Sicaran would be most advantageous indeed. Though if they make a plastic Spartan, I reserve the right to call anyone who gets one a peasant for the mere fact that I had to deal with the original cast :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/page/4/#findComment-3953715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBA Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Hastings hinted at a plastic contemptor actually. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/page/4/#findComment-3953718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Would probably make sense given the plain Contemptor likely sells less now than it used to. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/page/4/#findComment-3953721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted February 17, 2015 Author Share Posted February 17, 2015 I would love a plastic Contemptor, that would be incredible. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/page/4/#findComment-3953733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 It's too premature for worry. There are plenty of "nightmare scenarios" that spring to mind but life's too short and 30K is too much fun to play in the meantime. A plastic starter box that includes 30K era armor variants would only be a positive given the current landscape. Any plastic 30K models would be a great way for more players to enjoy the game who find the FW prices prohibitive. (I do feel the need to point out that GW prices are getting so close to FW's it seems to hardly matter but that's me. ) GW has lots of options to go from there w/o diluting/diverting the development roadmap that FW has very clearly laid out for years to come. Making supplemental plastic kits that cross the great divide is easy to do w/o being intrusive to either system. Loyal and Chaos marines in 40K have lots of fluff excuses to explain why they have access to some ancient and venerated war gear. You don't have to "take over" the HH rules from FW to leverage that. So it's all good till it isn't, as for now, so far so good. Cheers, -OMG In Australia fw is cheaper To be honest Kurama FW is not cheaper in Aus. Well for me it's better to spend 10 bucks more for a 5 man squad then a GW tac squad Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/page/4/#findComment-3953754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Would probably make sense given the plain Contemptor likely sells less now than it used to.If the plain Contemptor isn't selling because there are Legion specific ones, why would a plain plastic one help? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/page/4/#findComment-3953788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted February 17, 2015 Author Share Posted February 17, 2015 Would probably make sense given the plain Contemptor likely sells less now than it used to.If the plain Contemptor isn't selling because there are Legion specific ones, why would a plain plastic one help? I'd buy a plastic one, and I wouldn't buy the plain resin one, so the reasoning kindof works, for me at least. I doubt people would have more than one of the legion specific ones, they look a bit unique to be doubled up, IMO, but if I could get a plastic one and customise it, I would. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303518-worrying-rumour/page/4/#findComment-3953808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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