sockwithaticket Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 They probably are a bit on the slender side, but then so are the arms and I don't really know why, but they just appeal to me more than the plastic ones. It could be the de-squatting effect that does it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3955676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 I think they look better too. I don't really know why, I just know that since FW started their resin armours, I've kinda hated MkVII. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3955677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted February 19, 2015 Author Share Posted February 19, 2015 They definitely look better than the older GW kits, but the newer tactical boxes - Vanilla Marines and BA are a lot taller and more comparable to the FW kits. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3955679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 It's a combination of the old kits being pretty crap and just preferring the aesthetics of... Well, any Mark that isnt VII. The new kits are great in terms of customisability and General quality, I just don't like the aesthetics as much as MkII-VI. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3955680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 But is it quantity of players you want or the quality? This is why I'm not so keen, my local GWS and club all bad mouth FW and the Heresy and are all tau elder and neuron players, those attitudes they bring I don't think I'd want to play against, it's hard enough when we do an apocalypse game and everyone gets piss because I bring the super heavies, apparantly if im on one side it's unfair yet those 4 knights 30 odd fire prisms and teseract vaults are fine against my fell blade falchion glaivé and titans. those attitudes aren't what I feel the essential core of the 30k hobby are. I definitely see what you're saying, and agree with a lot of it. The thing I'd bring back to offer is simply a numbers game. If there's a ratio of bad attitude players to good attitude players, if you increase the numbers, yes you will get more bad apples, but you will find more gems too :) Why must I be in Aus :( Damn you and your sense! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3955686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 But is it quantity of players you want or the quality? This is why I'm not so keen, my local GWS and club all bad mouth FW and the Heresy and are all tau elder and neuron players, those attitudes they bring I don't think I'd want to play against, it's hard enough when we do an apocalypse game and everyone gets piss because I bring the super heavies, apparantly if im on one side it's unfair yet those 4 knights 30 odd fire prisms and teseract vaults are fine against my fell blade falchion glaivé and titans. those attitudes aren't what I feel the essential core of the 30k hobby are. I definitely see what you're saying, and agree with a lot of it. The thing I'd bring back to offer is simply a numbers game. If there's a ratio of bad attitude players to good attitude players, if you increase the numbers, yes you will get more bad apples, but you will find more gems too Why must I be in Aus Damn you and your sense! it comes with being Canadian? I mean, we're not that different. We both (canadians and aussies) live in semi-lifeless wastelands. Ours just so happens to go into the negative spectrum of the thermometer while yours goes into the high positives. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3955701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 But is it quantity of players you want or the quality? This is why I'm not so keen, my local GWS and club all bad mouth FW and the Heresy and are all tau elder and neuron players, those attitudes they bring I don't think I'd want to play against, it's hard enough when we do an apocalypse game and everyone gets piss because I bring the super heavies, apparantly if im on one side it's unfair yet those 4 knights 30 odd fire prisms and teseract vaults are fine against my fell blade falchion glaivé and titans. those attitudes aren't what I feel the essential core of the 30k hobby are. I definitely see what you're saying, and agree with a lot of it. The thing I'd bring back to offer is simply a numbers game. If there's a ratio of bad attitude players to good attitude players, if you increase the numbers, yes you will get more bad apples, but you will find more gems too :) Why must I be in Aus :( Damn you and your sense! it comes with being Canadian? I mean, we're not that different. We both (canadians and aussies) live in semi-lifeless wastelands. Ours just so happens to go into the negative spectrum of the thermometer while yours goes into the high positives. I'm in America, the land of the semi wastelives :P I'm surrounded by them for miles!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3955711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Carnelian Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 If GW makes plastic Heresy-era armors and a HH starter box, I'm a happy man. It means I won't have to invest in any of FW's ridiculous-looking bolters, which was gonna be my least-favorite part of my eventual Heresy army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3955720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 If GW makes plastic Heresy-era armors and a HH starter box, I'm a happy man. It means I won't have to invest in any of FW's ridiculous-looking bolters, which was gonna be my least-favorite part of my eventual Heresy army. But...but... FW has so much Bolter Variety! http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/DefaultFW/xlarge/combi-weapons.jpg http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/DefaultFW/xlarge/seeker-bolters.jpg http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/DefaultFW/xlarge/tigris-bolters-revised.jpg http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/DefaultFW/xlarge/phobos-bolters.jpghttp://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/DefaultFW/xlarge/Umbra-Bolters.jpg http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/DefaultFW/xlarge/Umbra-Ferrox-Bolters.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3955731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBA Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 ^ Mmmmm Phobos... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3955743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 If GW makes plastic Heresy-era armors and a HH starter box, I'm a happy man. It means I won't have to invest in any of FW's ridiculous-looking bolters, which was gonna be my least-favorite part of my eventual Heresy army. But...but... FW has so much Bolter Variety! http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/DefaultFW/xlarge/combi-weapons.jpg http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/DefaultFW/xlarge/seeker-bolters.jpg http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/DefaultFW/xlarge/tigris-bolters-revised.jpg http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/DefaultFW/xlarge/phobos-bolters.jpghttp://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/DefaultFW/xlarge/Umbra-Bolters.jpg http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/DefaultFW/xlarge/Umbra-Ferrox-Bolters.jpg And they'll probably do one of those bolter types in the box... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3955908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiel Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 I'd bet money that it'll be Tigrus in the box. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3955920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 I'd be happy with that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3955923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 Guys, I literally can't sit still in hope of this being true. I'll probably buy two or three starter boxes to build up my heresy forces. The only thing that would ruin it for me is if the kits in the set are covered in heraldry and symbols of a specific Legion I'm not interested in (I wouldn't bother with filing bits off). I'm hoping for Sons of Horus or neutral kits :-D Imagine a plastic Contemptor... Or an interesting Legion Praetor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3957240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_out Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 A SoH box would be freaking sweet. Yanno chances are if they were to release a starter kit, I wouldn't think it out of the realm of possibility they also would offer legion specific battle forces Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3957259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Nah they'll either be sensible and do them vanilla, or be idiots and do a themed starter. I don't see them doing 18 different battle forces. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3957262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Hey GW, I kinda met you, and this is crazy, but Dark Angel Legion shoulder pads maybe? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3957315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Because allllll I need is some heresy and a cheap kit that will make my life complete, but GW its all about you when sales are what moves you to move you do what you got to do Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3957332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uprising Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Like any other rumor, I have two rules: Wait and see, and do not hope. Hope is the first step down the road to disappointment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3957343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 I hoped for love and I found it :-P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3957380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Carnelian Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I'm actually quite exited for GW to take a measured part in the Heresy. They made it, after all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3958399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A D-B Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I think Forgeworld did mess up some of the lore. Originally the Legions were around 10,000 to 25,000 strong, but then they decided to go Super Saiyan on us and multiplied the number by 10. Nothing to do with Forge World. (Or Black Library, as someone later incorrectly corrected you.) That was actually GW, about 10 years ago when the IP manager wrote the first in-depth look at the Heresy for the Visions books, which were later compiled in Collected Visions. As to why a few of the early HH novels got it wrong, I've mentioned that a squillion times in the last few years: "The earlier BL books (before and including A Thousand Sons) were operating from the wrong sources. While writing The First Heretic, I asked at a Horus Heresy meeting if we could nail the proper Legion sizes down. It was agreed by Games Workshop's IP Manager, Alan Merrett (responsible for a lot of the HH lore over the years) that they averaged 100,000 strong, as noted in Horus Heresy: The Collected Visions and the most recent Codex: Chaos Space Marines (now called the Gavdex). It's worth noting the anomaly is Prospero Burns, but that was largely written the same time as A Thousand Sons, just released very late. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3958426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I think Forgeworld did mess up some of the lore. Originally the Legions were around 10,000 to 25,000 strong, but then they decided to go Super Saiyan on us and multiplied the number by 10. Nothing to do with Forge World. (Or Black Library, as someone later incorrectly corrected you.) That was actually GW, about 10 years ago when the IP manager wrote the first in-depth look at the Heresy for the Visions books, which were later compiled in Collected Visions. As to why a few of the early HH novels got it wrong, I've mentioned that a squillion times in the last few years: "The earlier BL books (before and including A Thousand Sons) were operating from the wrong sources. While writing The First Heretic, I asked at a Horus Heresy meeting if we could nail the proper Legion sizes down. It was agreed by Games Workshop's IP Manager, Alan Merrett (responsible for a lot of the HH lore over the years) that they averaged 100,000 strong, as noted in Horus Heresy: The Collected Visions and the most recent Codex: Chaos Space Marines (now called the Gavdex). It's worth noting the anomaly is Prospero Burns, but that was largely written the same time as A Thousand Sons, just released very late. Huh, the more you know. When I first saw the rumor I basically went the sky is falling then I actually read the rumor and it doesn't seem so bad. I would welcome some plastic heresy marine if done right. And of games workshop stays away from the rules and fluff with a ten foot pole. Also no one invite Phil Kelly when they are Doing ultra marines I don't want another damnos. Let one of the bald brothers of awesomeness handle the rules and fluff ( wait is Alan Bligh bald? I though he was). Then I would be happy. Also plastic contemptor would be cool I though I heard forgeworld say once that it is one of their best selling kits. Imagine how much GW would make especially if it's heresy with you having them in squads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3958430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Alan Bligh has a beard so large that it even covers the top of his head. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3958432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Alan Bligh has a beard so large that it even covers the top of his head. He was sanctioned hair by the most high. An honor bestowed upon him as of his work with the heresy. All hail Bligh... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3958434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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