Ishagu Posted February 22, 2015 Author Share Posted February 22, 2015 End of the day, if they create a plastic Legion 10 man tactical squad kit that costs the same as the ba/vanilla marine kit, then everyone will love GW and sing their praises for a long time. Can it look great? Absolutely. I wouldn't even mind if they release a Codex for every Legion. Use existing fw rules, make further additions, perhaps modify the points of some overpriced units. Or better yet, sell the books in-store. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-3959013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Mega Arachnids would be cool but probably couldn't trademark them, that human race that was allied with the centaur like race when Erebus stole the anathame could be cool. Ŵell they managed to trade mark space marines... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-3959015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I think they're like space Skaven in as much as they breed fast, are numerous and hard to completely wipe out. Kinda like orks I guess. Not neccesarily space ratmen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-3959017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Well, the Hrud were actually space skaven originally (I think it might even be as far back as the Rogue Trader days) but they were altered like some of the other more zany stuff (e.g half-eldar space marines) was removed to re-grimdark Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-3959022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I know that when they migrate it's a massive thing that takes more then one chapter to stop. Anyway sorry I dragged it off topic with the (cool) bizarre aliens. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-3959027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 End of the day, if they create a plastic Legion 10 man tactical squad kit that costs the same as the ba/vanilla marine kit, then everyone will love GW and sing their praises for a long time. Can it look great? Absolutely. I wouldn't even mind if they release a Codex for every Legion. Use existing fw rules, make further additions, perhaps modify the points of some overpriced units. Or better yet, sell the books in-store. A full blown codex for each legion would be awesome, but would need to be handled by FW. I wouldn't let the GW writing team come within touching distance of it. FW already does great with the legion entries within the big books, but more campaigns and stories from them would be awesome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-3959029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 End of the day, if they create a plastic Legion 10 man tactical squad kit that costs the same as the ba/vanilla marine kit, then everyone will love GW and sing their praises for a long time. Can it look great? Absolutely. I wouldn't even mind if they release a Codex for every Legion. Use existing fw rules, make further additions, perhaps modify the points of some overpriced units. Or better yet, sell the books in-store. A full blown codex for each legion would be awesome, but would need to be handled by FW. I wouldn't let the GW writing team come within touching distance of it. FW already does great with the legion entries within the big books, but more campaigns and stories from them would be awesome. I wouldn't be surprised if after FW release all of their HH books & move on to the Scouring (in the distant future), they compile each Legion's background & rules from across the whole series into individual books. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-3959046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I wouldn't be surprised if after FW release all of their HH books & move on to the Scouring (in the distant future), they compile each Legion's background & rules from across the whole series into individual books. That is, if they move forward towards the Scouring and not backwards towards the Crusade and Unification. Which is far less probable, but I can still dream to see resin Thunder Warriors in my lifetime. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-3959066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 End of the day, if they create a plastic Legion 10 man tactical squad kit that costs the same as the ba/vanilla marine kit, then everyone will love GW and sing their praises for a long time. Can it look great? Absolutely. I wouldn't even mind if they release a Codex for every Legion. Use existing fw rules, make further additions, perhaps modify the points of some overpriced units. Or better yet, sell the books in-store. A full blown codex for each legion would be awesome, but would need to be handled by FW. I wouldn't let the GW writing team come within touching distance of it. FW already does great with the legion entries within the big books, but more campaigns and stories from them would be awesome. I wouldn't be surprised if after FW release all of their HH books & move on to the Scouring (in the distant future), they compile each Legion's background & rules from across the whole series into individual books. God help us and our wallets if they decide to do the scouring. FW has done a better job making sure I don't have money than the Recession has. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-3959068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Bearclaw Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 God help us and our wallets if they decide to do the scouring. FW has done a better job making sure I don't have money than the Recession has. Of course they'll do the Scouring, it's the natural follow up to the heresy and Terra. They may even include Caliban and finally do your DA shoulder pads . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-3959086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 God help us and our wallets if they decide to do the scouring. FW has done a better job making sure I don't have money than the Recession has. Of course they'll do the Scouring, it's the natural follow up to the heresy and Terra. They may even include Caliban and finally do your DA shoulder pads :P. Pfft. Not before we see a warlord Titan, a plastic thunderhawk, and the rerelease of the squats. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-3959105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hisdudeness Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 There's no need for 30k Eldar or Orks. Maybe make a few of those super orks and that's all we need. If they're gonna do 30k Xenos (FW have said they aren't) actually do 30k Xenos, not just Xenos we already have that wouldn't have changed thaaaat much. Actually, that has slowly changed every weekender. The last I heard, it would most likely happen but only after the Heresy was finished and part of the Scouring. Won't happen until after Terra. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-3959107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I still hope they don't just do Orks and Eldar then. Not unless they make them significantly different, which they weren't really. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-3959115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Eerr, the title seems to point at it being for certain that GW will take over the heresy, but I haven't seen any rumours that have had any substance to them about this. Just speculation and vague statements from "trusted" sources. The rumour is that they're doing a plastic starter set for the heresy. And they are pretty trusted sources. The most reliable rumour mongers all say it's happening so I'm willing to bet it is. They're very rarely wrong. But no it doesn't look like they're taking over the heresy proper, which was my fear. Who are those sources, because I haven't seen Harry or Darnok say that at least... I've seen them say something is happening, but other than that it's pretty vague even for rumours... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-3959123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Harry and Hastings. If they haven't said it directly then they've hinted and guided to those rumours. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-3959131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Frankly, as much as I like the FW team, they arent perfect on rules releases. The RG release was a let down when compared to the other legions. My friend tells me that the 30k RG play as the 40k RG should...I agree. There isnt anything *spectacular* about them. WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-3959155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 via a reader, from the Faeit 212 inbox: Greetings!This Morning I was on GWs online shop and something was different. So I have make this screenshort.The taskbar shows scenery twice and when i go with the cursor on the first, the textbox shows "horus heresy" i can't verify this, it may be photoshoped, but GW has posted up brief workings on the site in the past too ... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-3959157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 If it's legit it could just be a link to forge world stuff. Been reading about a merge in the sites for the last year. The other stuff, 40k stuff, and Warhammer forge(the one bad thing about the success of the heresy was the dropping or at least slowing down of the warhammer forge) could be slotted in under the normal sections. Heresy stuff would need it's own place. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-3959170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 If it's legit it could just be a link to forge world stuff. Been reading about a merge in the sites for the last year. The other stuff, 40k stuff, and Warhammer forge(the one bad thing about the success of the heresy was the dropping or at least slowing down of the warhammer forge) could be slotted in under the normal sections. Heresy stuff would need it's own place. Just been on the site, didn't see an extra button Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-3959218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I'm of mixed opinion on this. I think over the last 15 years I have spent a small fortune on this hobby. I have slowed my Forgeworld orders because living in Canada the shipping is one thing, but it doesn't compare to the total pounding we take on 'Customs' charges. To avoid this alone by picking it up in store would be huge. There's the weak dollar as well. Seeing those FW items, translated to my local dollar value would probably be a real head shaker.... That said I have so many GW projects going I truly feel moving into 30K is too much for me. The price increases over the past couple of years already had me sell off several armies. I'd probably limit my expenditures to Ultramarine stuff coming out shortly AND the books which are quite expensive to get shipped here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-3959234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Harry and Hastings. If they haven't said it directly then they've hinted and guided to those rumours.To my knowledge they have not said anything, just vague smileys when other people have said vague things. The rumours feels as solid as air imho... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-3959302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 There is way too much optimism about this. If anyone but FW does the Heresy, it's going to blow. Plain and simple. GW proper lacks the talent to do the story justice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-3959318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adra'Melek Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Harry and Hastings. If they haven't said it directly then they've hinted and guided to those rumours.To my knowledge they have not said anything, just vague smileys when other people have said vague things. The rumours feels as solid as air imho... Hastings definitely said there was a horus heresy stand alone game coming. It would have plastic marines in a mark between 3 and 5. He asked what Cataphract were. I've seen a quote where he asked what a Comtemptor was but I haven't seen the primary quote. He's also said that the models will be release separately from the game as part of a new 30k line hat will replace Lotr and hobbit in the shops. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-3959326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I've not been around much the last several days due to some personal stuff, but let's keep this on track and away from any xenos or sports discussions. That said... Not saying it's not possible, they won't be the same. Just look at a plastic Marine arm or bolter and look at a resin arm or bolter. Notice the difference? This is not due to scuplts, it is due to the completely different process in production and the capability of each of the materials. I've seen this idea thrown about since I got into the hobby 15 years ago, though it's usually talking about the superior quality of pewter over plastic, and it's patently false. Plastic models can be every bit as detailed as resin and metal. To do that, the injection molds would have to be a lot more detailed themselves, which would cost a lot more money and since the majority of the people who build this stuff aren't modelers with experience from other companies, no one really says anything about it. Go look at some of the high-end kits, especially WWII tanks, by companies like Tamiya or Dragon/DML, and you'll see the level of detail that plastic kits can hold. The problem is price and the need to satisfy the profit demands of the shareholders. Could they make injection molded multi-part plastic marines in Marks II - V that look as good as the ones from FW? Absolutely. It's entirely possible. Will they? Doubtful. If this rumor ends up being true, they will most likely be close, but less detailed and probably have little bits here and there changed to make cutting those new molds just that little bit cheaper. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-3959332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Frankly, as much as I like the FW team, they arent perfect on rules releases. The RG release was a let down when compared to the other legions. My friend tells me that the 30k RG play as the 40k RG should...I agree. There isnt anything *spectacular* about them. WLK But if the 30k RG play like the 40k ones do, doesn't the point still stand that FW did it better? No one has said that they're perfect, but compared to the rules GW puts out... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303658-so-whos-excited-about-gw-taking-over-the-heresy/page/6/#findComment-3959342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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