Charlo Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Hi all, has anyone tried out mass dreads with the new codex yet? The maximum you could potentially have is seven using just the codex book with the Baal Strike Force: 2 Librarian Dreads for HQs. 4 Furioso/ DC for Elites. 1 Cassor for Troops. Pretty nasty, especially if you got them Pods I imagine. What would you guys take with this? Or even how would you use them? Definately not asking because I will own 5 dreads in a couple of days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sans Mercy Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I'd like to run up to four some day, I don't have many tactical ideas except attempting target saturation, and covering them with a Laspred or Devs of some type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Gunzhard Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Just before the new codex came out I tried this in a PlanetStrike mission; I have tons of dreads too hah. It was a really fun game but I ended up getting hosed at the end. If you try it, please post a bat-rep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaezus Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Ran five dreads for a while and it was great fun. 3 fragiosos dropping for effect. 2 DC dreads dropping with an eye to assaulting next turn; Lucius pods are ideal for these. Back in old dex of course, but had meph and corbulo in a land raider. Obvious weakness is mobility, and covering their rear arcs. You might find this a problem no matter what you run with them. I suppose it goes without saying you'll take Sanguinary for the Libby dreads? Quickening will make them pure anti-MC. If you want to go for even more you could always run a CAD as an allied detachment; Libby dread as HQ, scout troop tax and as many furiosos or DC dreads as you can fit. Of the top of my head, that might give you 9 dreads in total.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaezus Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Ran five dreads for a while and it was great fun. 3 fragiosos dropping for effect. 2 DC dreads dropping with an eye to assaulting next turn; Lucius pods are ideal for these. Back in old dex of course, but had meph and corbulo in a land raider. Obvious weakness is mobility, and covering their rear arcs. You might find this a problem no matter what you run with them. I suppose it goes without saying you'll take Sanguinary for the Libby dreads? Quickening will make them pure anti-MC. If you want to go for even more you could always run a CAD as an allied detachment; Libby dread as HQ, scout troop tax and as many furiosos or DC dreads as you can fit. Of the top of my head, that might give you 9 dreads in total.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaezus Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Ran five dreads for a while and it was great fun. 3 fragiosos dropping for effect. 2 DC dreads dropping with an eye to assaulting next turn; Lucius pods are ideal for these. Back in old dex of course, but had meph and corbulo in a land raider. Obvious weakness is mobility, and covering their rear arcs. You might find this a problem no matter what you run with them. I suppose it goes without saying you'll take Sanguinary for the Libby dreads? Quickening will make them pure anti-MC. If you want to go for even more you could always run a CAD as an allied detachment; Libby dread as HQ, scout troop tax and as many furiosos or DC dreads as you can fit. Of the top of my head, that might give you 9 dreads in total.. Woah...lost my internet there and look what I did! Mods..please help?! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sans Mercy Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 That's how you Dread Spam Shaezus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaezus Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Sigh...my internets went down at the critical moment! Mods..heeeelp!! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted February 19, 2015 Author Share Posted February 19, 2015 Excellent help guys! I'm just a bit in love with Dreads after they ripped through a zone mortalis game the other day (although there is a lot less shooting there but still...) I currently have two Dreads, one With two combat weapons that could be DC or Furi and another with no arms currently. Then I have the parts for 3 more coming. Goin to make one Librarian, one fragi and then Cassor and see what parts I have left for anything else. Really tempted by the new shooty Daredo(sp?) too, especially with those big plasma guns they showed at the weekender ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Dont forget BSF needs 2 troops, so you need scouts anyways. Librarian Dread, pod Librarian dread, pod Fragioso, pod Fragioso, pod 5 scouts 5 scouts 5 scouts Cassor, FA Pod 5 dreads at 1080 pts using 2 baal strike force detachments. You have the option to add 2 more librarian dreads, and up to 6 more elite dreads depending on your point limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted February 19, 2015 Author Share Posted February 19, 2015 Nice list. I have a few sniper scouts and a few combat ones but the third choice will have to be Tacs. Probably with a grav gun or missile launcher to pot shot things. Hopefully some infiltrating combat scouts can assist a dread where it's needed to stop a tarpit or intercept a Melta threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Just to add, Forgeworld's new Deredeo pattern Dreadnought takes up a HS slot so that increases your maximum and the best bit is that it potentially sorts the list for anti-air. Sadly it has the Relic of the Armoury rule so if you wanted anymore you would have to squeeze in a Chaplain somehow. Then there's the Lucious pattern Dreadnought Drop Pod which may be of use (any Dreadnought can take it as a Dedicated Transport) as it can give your Dreadnought Shrouded on the turn it arrives (along with anything that draws a line of sight behind it) and if you wanted, you could leave the Dreadnought embarked and still fire due to the open-topped nature of the Drop Pod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted February 19, 2015 Author Share Posted February 19, 2015 Ah I thought you could take one relic then for more you needed a Chaplain per extra. But yeah the Anti Air and HS slot is why I was thinking of it!... Or Three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Ah, I see the confusion. Instead of "anymore" I should have typed "more than one". Sorry, my bad. I've also just noticed you mentioning the plasma arms in an earlier post and as nice as they are, it looks like they will be 30k only :( (So you'll more than likely need permission in a casual setting.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted February 19, 2015 Author Share Posted February 19, 2015 A man with a wish to but unload the emperors fury into the squishy xenos can dream... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Well, adding sniper scouts with cloaks (+ missile) adds 30pts. Swapping 5 scouts to tac marines with a grav/missile adds another 30pts. That brings the list I proposed up to 1140pts. To that, you can add 2 more fragiosos in pods, then upgrade 2 pods to get deathwind launchers for an even 1500pts. However you can fit all this into a single BSF. In that case, I'd drop the tacs and a scout squad and add ML to the librarians. Going to 2000pts: Librarian Dread, pod ML2 Librarian dread, pod ML2 Fragioso, pod Fragioso, pod Fragioso, pod Fragioso, pod Death co dread, pod Death co dread, pod 5 scouts 5 scouts, camo cloaks, missile launcher 5 Tacs, grav gun, combi grav, drop pod Cassor, FA Pod 5 assault marines, 2x melta, combi melta, pod 2000pts exactly. 9 dreads, 11 pods. You get 6 dreads in your enemies deployment zone turn 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted February 19, 2015 Author Share Posted February 19, 2015 That is fully brutal. I guess see what you roll and if you get Blood Lance get some happy sniping going on Turn one. Main problem here is I don't have however many £'s to spend on pods. Personally I think they should be cheaper for what they are. Time to get paper crafting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaezus Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Is it legal to take 2 BSF? Maybe it's just tourny comp over here but the second detachment has to be different to the primary? If so: BSF: 2 Libby dreads 4 furioso Cassor Scouts 3 HS dread 10 dreads in one detachment. Circa 1500 points including pods, off the top of my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted February 19, 2015 Author Share Posted February 19, 2015 By heavy support Dread do you mean Daredo? Normal dreads are elites for us now, rendering them pretty useless :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaezus Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Nope. Just me being nostalgic sorry :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Is it legal to take 2 BSF? Maybe it's just tourny comp over here but the second detachment has to be different to the primary? Yes. Perfectly legal. If your second detachment had to be different to the primary, no army could ever take a second combined arms detachment, which unfairly gimps 6th ed codexes unless they're using allies. An army can be made up of as many detachments as you like. The ones available to Blood Angels are: Combined arms Allied (must not be from Codex Blood Angels) Baal Strike Force Archangels Strike Force Flesh Tearer Strike Force. You can mix and match these as you choose, as long as you meet all the minimum requirements in the force org. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Raul Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Am i missing something; BA don't get lucius drop pods do they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 In the most up to date rules (Imperial Armour volume two second edition) we most certainly do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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